Thoughts on Hammers on elk (out of a 6.5 CM)

[choprzrul]

I wonder how many deer, elk, moose, and bears fell to the 30-30 from 1900 to 1950?

With the 30-30 being such a pathetically slow, under powered round….and having horrible BC….it surely couldn't have killed much of anything……

Come to think of it, I'm still amazed that 170gr flat point out of my Trapper model didn't bounce off that buck at 20 yards???

Methinks the 6.5 cm will do fine, but a man's gotta know his limitations when using his tools.

 

[dustbag]

I've killed 7 elk now. Our group together is over 20 in the last 8 years. We have 2-7mags, 300 win, 300 rum, 28 nosler. Majority one and done. I could pedal my *** to yhe grocery store I'd get there but a corvette would get me there quicker. I own 3 creedmoors. Ones set up for dogs. The others only eat paper. Personally when it comes to hunting I prefer magnums with heavy pills. That's me. You do you. I think most bullets 500 yards would b the limit. As others said shot placement etc. Good luck!

 

[Muddyboots]

The 6.5CM will do ok on elk. Within reasonable responsible yardages. No different than other cartridges, know your rifle, know the ballistics and terminal performance of the bullet for the size of the game you are hunting.

Can't believe I just said this^^^^! But to be fair its no different when any cartridge is used beyond its practical hunting range for LARGE game animals like elk.

Like many have stated, broadside away from shoulder would be best option. Hunting circumstances do not always cooperate which is why I like .300WM.

 

[Wyo37]

Smart man there Wyo!

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I just called Carson @ Lilja and have the barrel ordered, it'll go about .65" at the muzzle at 23" and scoped, sling, rounds it'll be less than 7 lbs and will go a long long ways when it comes to taking out elk. Will most likely use a 139 Scenar....gasp. But perhaps a Hammer as I love to promote those from the state

If I reloaded the 139 scenar would be a top 3 pick for me. Until then, 140 eldm or 143 eldx.

 

[ButterBean]

Also, you can just run the ballistics and see where they hit 1800fps. There's your max range if you're comfortable with it.

^^^^^^^^^^^ As he said, impact velocity is your threshold ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 

[ButterBean]

Thx I'm on it

What is your max range that you are comfortable with? if this has already been asked I apologize as i just got off the road

 

[cabelasken]

Y'all got yourselves worked up. Following bc I just built an 18" 6.5 CM and plan to pop whitetails with it and maybe some larger animals like elk.

For anyone shooting 124 hammers, what was your go-to powder in the 6.5 CM?

Sta bil 6.5 and superformance seemed to give good velocity. Sta bil 6.5 was a 1/2" shooter in my rifle and superformance was 3/4" AVE. This was for about 5- 5 shot groups of each. There are probably many other powders that will work fine with the 124 HH, but I happen to have several pounds of each of these. 2900+ FPS was not a problem in a 22" barrel. I tried various seating depths, but as Steve has repeatedly mentioned - it didn't matter. I was gonna try magnum primers as has been suggested, but that will have to come later. Also got good groups with Barnes LRX 127 Gr bullets 1/2" but only a little over 2800 FPS. Last years mulie fell to this load.

 

[Northkill]

Taking that 1800 fps range I'm guessing that the 123 Absolute would be good to go to 500 give or take a bit. 500 is plenty far for me in open country that is public land. Now on private land I'd feel comfy going a lot further if the bullets up to it.

My CM likes the 124 HH
24", 1-8", CA
Nosler case
F210
COAL 2.716
.02 jump
RL-16 / 44.0 gr
2978 fps

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3 shots at 385 yd (2 in same hole)

 

[Northkill]

Don't sweat it. If you know what you're doing and work with the 1800 fps bottom line, you'll get better penetration out of the 124 HH than you will with the heavier cup & cores. Just my experience. Been very impressed do far.

If you need more reassurance, check out this thread.

A little hammer goes a long way

Greetings all. I got to try out the 22 cal 52 grain hammer hunter yesterday on a 200 pound razor back and I must say that for that size bullet I am impressed with the damage it did. Impact was just below the right eye and the exit was on the point of the left shoulder, the right side of the...

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[Hard rock]

What is your max range that you are comfortable with? if this has already been asked I apologize as i just got off the road

Nice too see you posting Bean

 

[dogz]

I think that we've had a bit over 50 responses so far and not one direct response from someone who's actually used a Hammer out of a CM on an elk...

Shocker eh

 

[Marky_mark]

Obviously no one else has thought it is a good idea to try

 

[dogz]

Obviously no one else has thought it is a good idea to try

well yeah there could be that as well............

The world's an awfully flat place right

 

[PatriotHenry]

I wonder how many deer, elk, moose, and bears fell to the 30-30 from 1900 to 1950?

With the 30-30 being such a pathetically slow, under powered round….and having horrible BC….it surely couldn't have killed much of anything……

Come to think of it, I'm still amazed that 170gr flat point out of my Trapper model didn't bounce off that buck at 20 yards???

Methinks the 6.5 cm will do fine, but a man's gotta know his limitations when using his tools.

This!