H1000 (baseline) to HUS869 were powder recommendations by Berger tech support when I called them for the 156 for .264 WM. @madman at 3200 FPS and @Mike from Texas at 3300 FPS are bad arse set-ups. As with anything else, YMMV. Good luck!I tried 8133 and us869...so far...I have some RL33 also