The Hammer Milk Jug Challenge

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I had posted a little while ago that we wanted to do our version of the milk jug challenge. But I did not want it to look like it gives long range guys a black eye.
We did shoot it yesterday. It was probably one of the most worthy shooting events I have been part of. I think we got great footage for the show and all of us shooting had a ton of fun. Blowing up milk jugs doesn't get old. Giggled every time, even at the end of the day! We set up the shoot on Saturday and shot it yesterday. Started shooting about 6 am. When we set it up we did not use any range finders. Most of the shots were in the 100y to 400y range with several in the 400y to 500y range and a couple to close to the 600y mark. I would say that we went about 98% under 500y. Maybe better. All of us missed what I would call a gimee shot. Our shooting was all from field positions that you would use if you were hunting in open country. We utilized mostly prone off backpack, bipod, or combination of. Rich shot pretty much all off tripod with arca rail attachment from a seated position with a backpack for rear support. I didn't try this but worked very well. I shot quite a bit using tripod and arca rail from standing out to about 350y with the 7-08 then started shooting prone off a backpack. When I switched to the 25-284 I shot everything prone off my pack wedged into a rock formation. It was very realistic for what a guy would do when hunting. Under 500y yards I think we all missed a couple of shots. Over 500y we were probably closer to 50%. For the shooting of the video I think we each had about 20 shots. Toward the end of the video we still had quite a few jugs set up that we shot from about 600y to 800y that we decided to shoot for fun. We all made good shots on these but worked more as a team to do so. We were dealing with a 10-15 mph switching wind that changed a lot with the terrain. Past 500y it made hitting a 6"w x 8" tall jug difficult.

In the first set there was a target set up at 400y that we all struggled with. I think Rhian was the only one that smoked that one. He went the longest without a miss. That was when I switched to the fast gun. The one shot that I could not believe that I missed was at 340y. Everything felt perfect but missed. Shot it again with the same hold and drilled it. Brian gave us the first miss at about 120y. Laying prone he didn't quite clear the sagebrush in front of him. Easy mistake to make in the prairie. Another thing that I noticed is that at the end when we were messing around, I think all of us got better. I pulled the 7-08 back out and was shooting it off the Viper sticks and was feeling very comfortable with it.

I must add that my Uncle came out and helped set up and brought his vintage WWI Enfield 30-06 full military rifle. Shooting the peep sights he was pretty darn deadly out to about 300y. And he didn't have a range finder! He shot sitting in a chair off a Bogpod front rest.

Another thing that I noticed was the wind hold was pretty much the same for all of us regardless of bullet bc. If anything I felt like the fast guns had the wind advantage. Particularly Brian when he was running the 28 Fatgirl with the 154gr prototype with a high bc and 3575 fps vel. I don't think he held any wind until we got out to 600y.

We got everything cleaned up and ready to leave yesterday afternoon just as the thunder storms started to roll in. If that had happened earlier in the day, we probably would have missed most of the shots. All in all this was very worth the effort and all of us agreed that we need to get together to do this a few times a year. Priceless practice!

I didn't take a single pic! @RichCotte or @bigngreen if you have pics post them! Also add your take on the day and how it was for you.
 
I had posted a little while ago that we wanted to do our version of the milk jug challenge. But I did not want it to look like it gives long range guys a black eye.
We did shoot it yesterday. It was probably one of the most worthy shooting events I have been part of. I think we got great footage for the show and all of us shooting had a ton of fun. Blowing up milk jugs doesn't get old. Giggled every time, even at the end of the day! We set up the shoot on Saturday and shot it yesterday. Started shooting about 6 am. When we set it up we did not use any range finders. Most of the shots were in the 100y to 400y range with several in the 400y to 500y range and a couple to close to the 600y mark. I would say that we went about 98% under 500y. Maybe better. All of us missed what I would call a gimee shot. Our shooting was all from field positions that you would use if you were hunting in open country. We utilized mostly prone off backpack, bipod, or combination of. Rich shot pretty much all off tripod with arca rail attachment from a seated position with a backpack for rear support. I didn't try this but worked very well. I shot quite a bit using tripod and arca rail from standing out to about 350y with the 7-08 then started shooting prone off a backpack. When I switched to the 25-284 I shot everything prone off my pack wedged into a rock formation. It was very realistic for what a guy would do when hunting. Under 500y yards I think we all missed a couple of shots. Over 500y we were probably closer to 50%. For the shooting of the video I think we each had about 20 shots. Toward the end of the video we still had quite a few jugs set up that we shot from about 600y to 800y that we decided to shoot for fun. We all made good shots on these but worked more as a team to do so. We were dealing with a 10-15 mph switching wind that changed a lot with the terrain. Past 500y it made hitting a 6"w x 8" tall jug difficult.

In the first set there was a target set up at 400y that we all struggled with. I think Rhian was the only one that smoked that one. He went the longest without a miss. That was when I switched to the fast gun. The one shot that I could not believe that I missed was at 340y. Everything felt perfect but missed. Shot it again with the same hold and drilled it. Brian gave us the first miss at about 120y. Laying prone he didn't quite clear the sagebrush in front of him. Easy mistake to make in the prairie. Another thing that I noticed is that at the end when we were messing around, I think all of us got better. I pulled the 7-08 back out and was shooting it off the Viper sticks and was feeling very comfortable with it.

I must add that my Uncle came out and helped set up and brought his vintage WWI Enfield 30-06 full military rifle. Shooting the peep sights he was pretty darn deadly out to about 300y. And he didn't have a range finder! He shot sitting in a chair off a Bogpod front rest.

Another thing that I noticed was the wind hold was pretty much the same for all of us regardless of bullet bc. If anything I felt like the fast guns had the wind advantage. Particularly Brian when he was running the 28 Fatgirl with the 154gr prototype with a high bc and 3575 fps vel. I don't think he held any wind until we got out to 600y.

We got everything cleaned up and ready to leave yesterday afternoon just as the thunder storms started to roll in. If that had happened earlier in the day, we probably would have missed most of the shots. All in all this was very worth the effort and all of us agreed that we need to get together to do this a few times a year. Priceless practice!

I didn't take a single pic! @RichCotte or @bigngreen if you have pics post them! Also add your take on the day and how it was for you.
Milk jugs are a hoot. If you had 15 mph wind at those distances I"d say that was pretty fair shooting. Fun is what it's about & it sounds like you guys aced it. 👍 I enjoyed reading your account. Thanks.
 
Well, I don't post much on here, but I'll share some of the fun from this weekend.

It was a great shoot, and I was humbled to be invited. We definitely all missed a few gimmes, but hey that's the real world of shooting, no matter what range you're at. I laughed on one of my longer (700+) shots when I cursed at the break of the trigger and others said something along the lines of "You know it's bad when you call it before impact..."

I had intended to run my actual hunting rifle (300WM) and Hammer load that I'm working up for it for this fall, but unfortunately ran out of time, so I defaulted to my Tikka CTR in .308. Other than a couple minor mods like an aftermarket trigger spring, pic scope rail, and ARCA rail it's basically an off the shelf rifle. I chose it and the .308 cartridge because I knew it would be a challenge, not only because it's a relatively new gun and load, but also because of the .308 and it's inherent difficulties with wind, even with a heavy, higher BC bullet. I also had my Ruger Precision Rifle in 6.5CM that I used to use for long range target shooting. I broke it out after the wind really picked up and anything beyond 500 yards was getting to be too much for the 308. It/I even struggled to find the mark on some of the longer (700+) range targets with the way the wind was swirling.

Shooting off the Tripod was a new experience for me. Before this weekend, I'd only shot a couple rounds on a flat range off of one. Other than that, it was only dryfire practice at the house, holding on targets out to about 850 from various positions. As Steve mentioned, I used my backpack as a rear rest on some shots. and others it was just the tripod and mostly from seated positions. I will definitely say that it's a game-changer, and unless I'm really hurting to cut weight out of my pack, I doubt I'll go with out one again.

Again, overall it was a great shoot that wasn't intended to give anyone a black eye, but more to show the real difficulties of making the shots when they count, under real world conditions. We all took shots that none of us would ever take on a live animal, but hey it's just milk jugs, and we didn't have to worry about wounding and losing an animal.
 

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Thank you for posting the pictures of the location and geography, it certainly helps seeing the location terrain when reading the shooting descriptions.

It certainly seems to be more of a relaxing day of shooting moderate distances than anything really competitive. There is a distinct joy found when shooting with friends throughout the course of a day!

Thanks!

:)
 
Steve,

Thanks for adding more stills from the Milk Jug shoot!

Speaking for myself, I always enjoy pictures from shoots and hunts, the written experiences are heightened by pictures. Both combined offer the best vicarious experiences!

Thanks!

😁
 
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