I have taken 3 elk with the Terminal Ascent and it's predecessor. 1 at 570 yds, 1 at 510 yds and 1 at 190 yds. None went over 20 yds after being hit. 2 were with the .308 ,200 gr and one with the 175 gr. I shoot a Mod 70, .300 WSM. The accuracy is outstanding and the terminal performance was better than any bullet I have used in 0ver 60 years of hunting elk. l do have some .200 and 175 gr that would sell you. PM me and I'll tell you what I have. Last season was my last for elk hunting. My old horse (who's almost as old as me) is no longer usable, plus the elk quit coming to the area I had so much success in previous years.