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Spike tents.......lets do it again...lol

... but most of the hunters don't really understand what winter camping, snow camping, sleeping in your pack, melting ice to make water is all about.

Have to agree with this which includes myself. I really don't want to sleep outside in those conditions. The gear I have will keep me perfectly warm down to about -5 deg F and it is extremely light weight. Once it gets below that I would need gear better suited for the conditions you're describing. Good to have some folks here who I've used the best of the best in the worst of the worst... Adds more knowledge to the mix.

Out of curiosity, do you use your extreme cold weather gear during fall hunts where the temperatures are far warmer than the capability of that gear?
 
So not bragging.... But not talking about hunting, long range hunting, or tents that you can actually buy. Got it.
 
Check out the big agnes fly creek line. They are the lightest out there and actually hold up well in the wind and rain if you use them with proper staking. I'm a huge fan of freestanding tents and these have treated me well for my backpacking adventures
 
"Out of curiosity, do you use your extreme cold weather gear during fall hunts where the temperatures are far warmer than the capability of that gear? "

No, extreme cold gear is goose down(as opposed to synthetic) because you aren't worried about getting wet as water is in the form of ice. Make sure your shell is waterproof and then use layers as the weather dictates.

Lazylab, it's past your bedtime you must be tired .
Get a tent with features similar to a Bibler if you can't afford one or buy it used. Welded and stitched seams that are taped and sealed. When they stitch the material it makes little holes that water can get in and eventually you will be laying in a puddle. A tent also needs to vent as you expel about a quart of moisture from your breath at night as you sleep. If it's cold you will have ice all over the walls of your tent, if not you will have a quart of water on the floor. I prefer the Bibler as it has an internal frame meaning I can be inside the tent as I pitch it, dry and out of the rain. It is free standing so no stakes unless you want to expand the side walls, also has a tie in point in case of avalanches. A bivy sack for your sleeping bag will keep you dry if your tent leaks. Huddling up against a tree in a large trash bag worn like a poncho can keep you pretty dry but it's a long miserable night. And most flat spots that look like a good place to put your tent often turn into puddles during a storm. Do whatever you can to stay dry because it is hard to dry off in a storm.
 
I used the BCS-2 from Seek Outside worked well in all temps and weather along with the stove its my go to shelter ... If you don't like the floorless concept add the nest
 
I'll toss out another option I did not see listed. I use a 20 degree Kifaru bag with synthetic insulation. Pretty light for what it is. And we have been using a Mountainsmith LT two man tarp setup. Very light and fairly large inside for what it is. If I do backcountry muzzleloader deer this year that is what I will use.

If I really wanted to hunt from Sept 1 thru the late seasons, it would definitely take two different sets of gear.
 
My set up lets me go from early to late season but I never been in any extreme storms. I would like to see how it holds up.
 
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