Some Piece of equipment you feel is overly hyped

Small Lady said:
Spruce for the wildlife, and 2 stroke smoke for the lady.
I had to start my YZ85 this morning just to smell it, then couldn't resist going for a ride. If axe would come out with new scents such as spruce, and 2 stroke exhaust, they would be a huge hit.
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Two stroke mixed with ms109 race fuel.
Heck I've seen that attract guys right over to me also.
 
snox801 said:
This guy still shoots a 30-06 and buys his bullets from the local hardware the day before season. And refuses to buy anything but a v-8.

Not sure they can be considered overrated if they do what they say they will. Especially the Sherman line where we can measure them. He sold them with specific numbers and those have been achieved. If you were expecting more than he states that's on you. Same with hammers they do what everyone says they will.
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Only took 8 pages for the Hammer and Sherman cult to show up 😂😂😂
 
snox801 said:
This guy still shoots a 30-06 and buys his bullets from the local hardware the day before season. And refuses to buy anything but a v-8.

Not sure they can be considered overrated if they do what they say they will. Especially the Sherman line where we can measure them. He sold them with specific numbers and those have been achieved. If you were expecting more than he states that's on you. Same with hammers they do what everyone says they will.
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I don't own a Sherman cartridge but I have had very mixed results with accuracy with Hammers in a few of my rifles that are known shooters. They do well in my 6.5G and .308.

But in my 6.5x47, 260AI, 300 NMI and 338 NMI they don't do well at all.
 
Small Lady said:
I thought all stores did that.
My favorite couple of places have adjustable stocks, with a full action, barrel etc, and rail to swap scopes onto, and they are happy to put any scopes they have onto them and let me go outside and view them. They are not in some city center, but plenty of bush around, and good distances also. Maybe its just this area, and in some cities they don't let customers do so. Gun stores around here also do demo days, where they bring an assortment of rifles and scopes to the gun club, and let customers shoot them.
Again, maybe it's a 'here' thing, and not everywhere.
I got to shoot a Christensen 7prc at the gun club before ever buying one.
They had rifles topped with many brands of scopes there the same demo day as I shot the Christensen 7prc, and it was surprising that the Swarovski scopes were no better than the other scopes there, just more money. I mentioned that to the woman who was helping me, and she said that her experience was the same as mine, and she is 25 year shooter, teacher, gun shop employee, and avid hunter. She was given a Swarovski scope by Swarovski, put it on her fav rifle, sighted it in, hunted 1 season with it, took it off and sold it.
Before long a small crowd had gathered around us, listening, and some chiming in. There stood about 16 to 18 of us all in agreement the most over hyped scope brand had to be Swarovski.
Its not that they are junk....they seem to be okay, just not any better than anyone else's scope which is half the price.
Me, well I would rather buy 2 awesome scopes for the same price, and top 2 rifles with them.
Some people have said that a $9,000 rifle shoots so much nicer than the rest do to. Again for me, it was fine, but didn't shoot any better than the Christensen, it just cost a lot more. In fact my group was tighter using the demo Christensen 7prc, which was topped by a Zeiss scope that day. Again the Zeiss was every bit as good as the Swarovski, but cheaper.
We all have to make our own decisions on what to buy, I personally don't find that more expensive always equals better.
Just the same as some people hate the PRC cartridges. I don't pretend to understand why, but they are certainly entitled to their opinion.
But possibly the most split groups ever are based around the 6.5 creed. On one side is the group who say its the best thing ever made for hunting, and on the other side is the haters, who swear it's the most over hyped thing ever invented.
I have no dog in this fight, don't own one, but shot a few.
Certainly wouldn't claim that its terrible, or the best thing made.
I feel like it works well enough, and fills the gap for many they want filled. But don't understand why some need to hate it so dramatically. If you hate it, never buy one, problem solved.
Feeling a product is over rated is one thing, but I don't understand how anyone can have such deep hatred for an inanimate object. Best thing about it is nobody can be forced to buy anything.
Yes many products are over hyped, but in our hobby, for me, its still Swarovski, and a close #2 would be Gunwerks rifles. But I don't hate them, those companies haven't done me wrong, just find them overly expensive.
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I can't speak for what your eyes were seeing and under what conditions but there is a reason that people make their living with them use Swarovski optics. They are overwhelmingly chosen as the optic of choice by guides and outfitters. Al least here in the lower 48.


It's not hard to make even garbage scopes look good in a bright, sunny environment. Where alpha glass comes into play is at distance, glassing for hours without eye fatigue, in low light conditions and picking out details.
 
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Phil Rizzo said:
What has your personal experience been with Sherman Cartridges and Hammer bullets?
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I shoot Hammers. I'm not a "hater", but they aren't as perfect as claimed on this forum. Even their main "test expert guy" has admitted to me in PM's that they have issues and hopefully the new tipped line resolves them.

Shermans. Nope, I won't ever fall for that snake oil.
 
I have a 7.5x50 AJack scope made in Germany 50's era non centered reticle, glass is to die for, Closest of modern glass is Swavroski and Czeck, Zeiss.

Most hyped...all the scent cover spray and devices followed up by much of the camouflage hunting patterns. give me some old oiled canvas jackets and my wool issue pants and proof, I'm a figment of your imagination, the deer elk and moose don't fare any better.

Optics always come down to money, what do you want to pay .....best glass, most money..good glass with coatings to make up for short comings still a lot of money...both together....well...
 

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