So Will the .270 Win Overtake the CM's and PRC's?

[BigJake91]

Unfortunately the box store barrels or 99% of factory .270 barrels are slow twist and undesirable for using long low drag bullets. As I've said, my 270 shoots 130s superbly and kills deer just as superbly but at closer ranges than considered LR. That suits me just fine as I own many other LR cartridge option rifles. I'm not in a disadvantage simply because nobody (factory) makes a 270 win barrel fast enough to use low drag bullets for LR hunting. I just get a different tool out of the box. I'll keep hoping before long faster twist barrels will be born from factory rifles but until they do, I'll keep killing them at LR with today's more popular options. Remington changed hands once again so we will see where the new owner takes the company. I'm hearing possibly decent things to come.

who owns remington now?

 

[BigJake91]

If I wanted to improve on my 270win, then I'd just grab my 270wsm.

same barrel twist rate is it not?

 

[Calvin45]

While the 270 is a good cartridge, I'm doubting you'll ever see it gain popularity like the 6.5s, 7s, or 30s. Berger is pretty much the only one that makes a high BC .277 bullet that can compete with modern day 6.5mm cartridges. It has a good following in the average Joe hunting crowd but in long range the market is dominated by big 30s and also the 6.5s.

There will be more projectiles coming and already are, with the advent of the .277 sig fury (which destroys the 6.5 creed ballistics-wise) and the .27 Nosler (a whole different animal altogether). Nosler has their 165 grain ablr out and available now. Matrix ballistics (now shipping to the USA) has very competitively priced 155, 165, and 175 vlds. Woodleigh makes a 180 weldcore which is not a lr bullet but would absolutely SMASH out of the Nosler. Pretty sure cutting edge and hammer bullets make some "greater than 1:10 twist required" bullets too.
Now I agree with you. These aren't going be any good reason for 6.5 and 7mm shooters to get rid of their chosen chamberings. More like the development of a cult following, for people already enamoured with the .277 bore. People like me. It was my first deer rifle, my parents bought it for me when I was 14. I like the cartridge. I don't have a lot of reasons why but i just do and am not interested in the 6.5s or 7mms. Great to have more options, I've emailed savage and asked what the odds of them offering a plain vanilla 111 with a 1:8 twist or so.

 

[BigJake91]

Love the LR discussions in here - - and as noted - most hunters don't need the reach of what is kicked about in here. Heck - in the thick timber I was used to around Klamath Falls - my lever action Winchester M was fine - but in the open Country/ranches - the trusty .06 worked fine.

klamath falls oregon?

 

[BigJake91]

There will be more projectiles coming and already are, with the advent of the .277 sig fury (which destroys the 6.5 creed ballistics-wise) and the .27 Nosler (a whole different animal altogether). Nosler has their 165 grain ablr out and available now. Matrix ballistics (now shipping to the USA) has very competitively priced 155, 165, and 175 vlds. Woodleigh makes a 180 weldcore which is not a lr bullet but would absolutely SMASH out of the Nosler. Pretty sure cutting edge and hammer bullets make some "greater than 1:10 twist required" bullets too.
Now I agree with you. These aren't going be any good reason for 6.5 and 7mm shooters to get rid of their chosen chamberings. More like the development of a cult following, for people already enamoured with the .277 bore. People like me. It was my first deer rifle, my parents bought it for me when I was 14. I like the cartridge. I don't have a lot of reasons why but i just do and am not interested in the 6.5s or 7mms. Great to have more options, I've emailed savage and asked what the odds of them offering a plain vanilla 111 with a 1:8 twist or so.

27 nosler seems to me old school. kind of like weatherby. im not knocking either or. i love bot weatherby and nosler but that is a big magnumed 270. i thought picking one up just to grab a factory rifle with a faster twist rate but really wanted a 270 wsm.

 

[tomsd]

Yes siree - 50's and early 60's. BIG Mulies - 300+ lbs - lots of birds - now some big Elk too - lot of the Big Mulies shot out now tho.

 

[Starlite]

2 Question.
1st. What is the heaviest (longest COAL) that folks are loading for the 270Win?
2nd. Were some of the early 270 win. Built with a 1:11 twist?

 

[VLD Pilot]

Cerberus

who owns remington now?

 

[BigJake91]

Cerebus

i thougght navaho was buying them

 

[VLD Pilot]

i thougght navaho was buying them

That's the word. Navajo nation is the next buyer

 

[knapper]

I think the .270s foot hold IS hunting. It hasn't lost much if any popularity among hunters. Especially older hunters.

VLD PILOT I think if you would take a look at the products of GREEN RIVER RIFLE BARRRELS you would be pleasantly surprised at the quality and prices

 

[knapper]

Take a look at GREEN RIVER BARREL and supply

 

[GHDIII]

If the Remington 700 270 win I bought a few years back has a 1:8 twist barrel in it I wouldn't have just bought a 6.5 PRC because that 270 win would have been superior in every way for what I want in a rifle....... other then about 4 lbs extra recoil.

I am pretty sure most people are buying a higher twist rate at the expense of cheap plentiful ammo. Just because we don't want to rebarrel a perfectly good rifle so it can shoot the good LR bullets. You just can't buy a $500 270 win off the shelf with a 1:8 twist barrel....... If you could the 6.5 PRC wouldn't exist and you would see all sorts of factory ammo in 270 win with a G7 BC of .350+. They would be flying off the shelf because of all the low cost brass laying around and the cheap factory ammo in every store.

I'm probably not adding much to the conversation here but I put a 1:9 barrel on my Tikka T3 xlite in .270 win and it's a laser out to 300 yards with factory ammo. Using Winchester silver ballistic tip, or the Sig Elite I can keep groups solidly under 1/2 moa. It really seems to like cheaper ammo too. Especially American Whitetail. Even the cheap ammo hovers just over 1/2 moa when I'm paying attention.
The build is a $600 Tikka that I got on sale a Cabela's for $400. An MDT LSS chassis that was on sale for $225 and a Douglas Barrel.
My point is that this build has convinced me. I really can't see any reason to not slap on a new barrel instead of buying a new platform is cost prohibitive.

 

[VLD Pilot]

Take a look at GREEN RIVER BARREL and supply

Isn't that a muzzleloader rifle maker ? I've heard of them but never knew they made center-fire rifle barrels