scottyd2506
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How is their customer service? I may need to know soon.
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sig sauer kilo 2000 rangefinder
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How is their customer service? I may need to know soon.
I don't know from personal experience. Their semi-auto pistols have a very good reputation. I own one in 40 S&W. Their Sig 2000 model rifles are also a step above the more common/average production rifles. Know a guy that owns their bolt action rifle.
I recently read about some firearms their bringing to market. I think it was an AR-15. Thoroughly studied, designed and vetted prior to production. Just saying I can't think of any Sig product considered Tinker Toy / Tonka Truck quality. Pretty solid reputation.
I recently read about some firearms their bringing to market. I think it was an AR-15. Thoroughly studied, designed and vetted prior to production. Just saying I can't think of any Sig product considered Tinker Toy / Tonka Truck quality. Pretty solid reputation.
scottyd2506
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Some of my range blunders may be where I live, trese around here seem to be small on avg , some of the bigger ones I can get close to 1900 yards,
Reflective targets, a large green road sign I got 3073 yards, w just one click. I didn't try any further away w that sign. almost 2 miles away!
Will do more testing, but it seems most of the poor results was the battery (Evereadys are notorious for being trash).
Reflective targets, a large green road sign I got 3073 yards, w just one click. I didn't try any further away w that sign. almost 2 miles away!
Will do more testing, but it seems most of the poor results was the battery (Evereadys are notorious for being trash).
This thread died like nobody's business! where are all the reports we have been waiting for?
codyadams
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Long story short, it works very well and ranges how it should ha ha. 'Works as advertised', which for the price, is awesome. Pretty much sums it up
dmj
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My brother and I both purchased one. I've just played around with mine here at home. It does reach out some impressive distance a seems to be quick on it's read outs. Would say it works as advertised. My Brother has been taking his while steelhead fishing. They have been seeing a lot of elk and deer. He has ranged elk at almost 1400 yards. One guy in the group has the leica 1600. He likes the leica quite well, but does admit the kilo is a very impressive range finder, especially for the price point. Now how well they are going to hold up or any comments about customer service, just haven't had them long enough.
scottyd2506
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My friend and I went out to the fields today shooting at 1000 yards. He has a Bushnell 1 mile range finder. We both range our targets at 1000 yards easy, I put up a reflective 24x24 inch cardboard on mine, we went out to the other end of field that is 1750 yards.. We both ranges it, his 16 steel plate beside my paper target I picked up at 1755 yards, he could not get a reading, we went to the edge of field angled out to target. was hard to read because was not all the way perpendicular to where we was reading. It took many tries and pegged the reflective tape cardboard it at 1766 yards, his Bushnell would not read it. He paid $460 for his range finder and they are now like $600. It's about as good as my Sig Kilo 2000 that I paid the same for. Both of em destroy my Leupold 1000 Range finder.
I will say Either Sig will have to raise the price on the Kilo, or Leica, Busnell and a few others will have to lower their prices to compete or go broke on their range finders sales.
I'm not putting the other products down. but competition is good for the consumer.
I will say Either Sig will have to raise the price on the Kilo, or Leica, Busnell and a few others will have to lower their prices to compete or go broke on their range finders sales.
I'm not putting the other products down. but competition is good for the consumer.
bigngreen
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A good friend of mine has been running one for a while with his Leica 1600b and the Kilo will out distance the Leica on reflective targets but on game he getting more range from the Leica and feels a more quality range, he also was not happy wiyh the optical quality since we often use them as a monocular. At the a local store half the Kilo's have been returned. I'm waiting for now.
Rich Coyle
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What's was the reason for the returns?
scottyd2506
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The optical quality of my kilo 2000 is better than the Leupold 1000 LRF I have. Was surprised, as Sig is not a big optics maker and Leupold is. also the problem I had was the battery mostly.
An Idahoan
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Crazy that I happened upon this literally on the eve of picking up a used Leica 1600-B from a guy here locally. Not sure where I am going to land on this one, but I am curious as to why several things haven't been discussed here.
Perhaps it is because I am new to the long distance hunting world and am assembling my setup. Because of this, I do not have a set of tools (or single tool as would be the case if I had the G7 BR2) with all the sensors that long range hunting requires, especially in mountainous areas such as Idaho. Perhaps everyone else already has their solution (for example, a Kestrel 2500 or higher and an iPhone with Ballistic App).
This is what drew me to the Leica 1600-B aside from wind is that I have everything I need to get a good solution using Ballistic App:
- Range to game (line of sight)
- Angle of inclination (or declination)
- Temperature
- Barometric Pressure
The Sig Kilo has both range to game and angle of inclination (according to the users manual), so all I'd need is temperature and barometric pressure (along with my Ballistic App on my iPhone or apple device).
What remains for my considerations is optical quality comparison and ability to range game. On reflective targets it seems it is hands down Kilo. I just don't see myself shooting cars or reflective signs at 3000 yards any time soon (though many in Idaho love those signs).
I'd also be curious to know how accurate the Leica 1600-B's temp/baro/inclinometer sensors are. I assume the Kestrel's are the gold standard for temp/baro. I'd also be curious how accurate Sig Kilo's inclinometer is, though for an inclinometer, I think plus or minus 5 degrees should be good enough for hunting even at extreme angles and distances.
Are folks ready to give up their Leica 1600-B's because they already have the temp/baro covered? Or does their hunting simply not require it?
Thanks for reading my ruminations!
Perhaps it is because I am new to the long distance hunting world and am assembling my setup. Because of this, I do not have a set of tools (or single tool as would be the case if I had the G7 BR2) with all the sensors that long range hunting requires, especially in mountainous areas such as Idaho. Perhaps everyone else already has their solution (for example, a Kestrel 2500 or higher and an iPhone with Ballistic App).
This is what drew me to the Leica 1600-B aside from wind is that I have everything I need to get a good solution using Ballistic App:
- Range to game (line of sight)
- Angle of inclination (or declination)
- Temperature
- Barometric Pressure
The Sig Kilo has both range to game and angle of inclination (according to the users manual), so all I'd need is temperature and barometric pressure (along with my Ballistic App on my iPhone or apple device).
What remains for my considerations is optical quality comparison and ability to range game. On reflective targets it seems it is hands down Kilo. I just don't see myself shooting cars or reflective signs at 3000 yards any time soon (though many in Idaho love those signs).
I'd also be curious to know how accurate the Leica 1600-B's temp/baro/inclinometer sensors are. I assume the Kestrel's are the gold standard for temp/baro. I'd also be curious how accurate Sig Kilo's inclinometer is, though for an inclinometer, I think plus or minus 5 degrees should be good enough for hunting even at extreme angles and distances.
Are folks ready to give up their Leica 1600-B's because they already have the temp/baro covered? Or does their hunting simply not require it?
Thanks for reading my ruminations!
codyadams
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Mine is still doing just as it should, I went out today and shot steel out to 1200 yards. Using the scan mode it's easy to get a good distance, hold the button and pass back and forth over the target and you will see the range go from reading the stuff behind the target to popping forward and get your intended target. Took less than 5 seconds to get a range on my 12x20" steel target at 1192 yards, and I know the range was good because I dialed to that range and made 3 hits. Also did the same thing at 896 and 589. My rangefinder's laser is in the bottom 1/3rd of the circle, knowing where yours is located is important, and easy to do as well, find a telephone wire or something similar and bracket the circle till you find the fringes of where your laser is so you know where the center is.
Also was shooting p dogs today from 300 to 700 yards and had no problems whatsoever ranging in the field. I have had mine for about 5 months now I think. I would be interested to hear why people are returning them, mine hasn't had a single hiccup.
Also was shooting p dogs today from 300 to 700 yards and had no problems whatsoever ranging in the field. I have had mine for about 5 months now I think. I would be interested to hear why people are returning them, mine hasn't had a single hiccup.
codyadams
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I use a kestrel 2500 and the strelok app on my android phone, along with my rangefinder. Most the people I talk to don't use the ballistics on the leica because they are 'one size fits all' type ballistic programs, which might be close enough out to 400 or maybe 500, but not much more than that for most people.
My honest opinion, is the bushnell 1 mile, kilo, and leica are pretty much in the same class, because they all pretty much give you good ranges as far as the majority of us regularly shoot, 1500ish yards or less. To me, the next step up from any of these rangefinders is the G7, mainly for its awesome simplicity (wish I could afford one) and after that comes a Vectronix.
