Shooting a 1000yrds with the new ARC .224 with a budget of 2g?

[onethousandyrd]

Call me crazy...Been hiding $ from my wife for a while and have managed to come up with 2 thousand dollars. Got a decent 20'' barrel, good trigger on the CMMG lower and a good digital scope with BC Cal./phone software...etc. Will also use a suppressor. Goal is to hit a silhouette (standard size) at 1000 yrds. in day and night conditions. Looking for: a decent used portable weather device and precision rifle sled (A Ransom Rest?) Hornady has been helping me out with the ballistics of their new 62g ARC round. Anyone out there have above mentioned for sale? Also, does anyone out there have ANY advice? I am a semi-good shot but this is the first time I am trying to reach distance with such a small, fast round.

 

[Coyote Shadow Tracker]

Call me crazy...Been hiding $ from my wife for a while and have managed to come up with 2 thousand dollars. Got a decent 20'' barrel, good trigger on the CMMG lower and a good digital scope with BC Cal./phone software...etc. Will also use a suppressor. Goal is to hit a silhouette (standard size) at 1000 yrds. in day and night conditions. Looking for: a decent used portable weather device and precision rifle sled (A Ransom Rest?) Hornady has been helping me out with the ballistics of their new 62g ARC round. Anyone out there have above mentioned for sale? Also, does anyone out there have ANY advice? I am a semi-good shot but this is the first time I am trying to reach distance with such a small, fast round.

I don't know about the ARC BUT there are plenty of .224 AR style rifles that can shoot 1K with 77, 80, 85.5 gr bullets. Check with Nez "Bamban" hereon LRH. He has built many .223 ARs for competition. He is a wealth of knowledge!!!!!!!!

 

[Bravo 4]

My experience with the 22 ARC and factory Hornady loadings so far; the 62gr ELD-VT is a great option for moderate ranges, however the 88 grain ammo has over 20% less wind deflection @ 1000 yards and stays supersonic further. Going off the numbers the 88 grainers should be a "better" long range load. I have split the difference and been playing with the 75 ELD-M, even killed a decent buck with it with great terminal performance.

 

[FireFlyFishing]

I'd save more. Glass ain't cheap.

 

[onethousandyrd]

I don't know about the ARC BUT there are plenty of .224 AR style rifles that can shoot 1K with 77, 80, 85.5 gr bullets. Check with Nez "Bamban" hereon LRH. He has built many .223 ARs for competition. He is a wealth of knowledge!!!!!!!!

Sir, I looked seriously at the (definitely more accurate) heavier grain bullets. The dilemma is the significant drop at distance. Using a 1-7 twist Inside 500yrds...they are superior after 700yds...I'm guessing (at least with my 20'' barrel). You are correct about the (very pricy) 1k rifles. My overall budget is 2g. Can't touch those rifles inside that budget but will check out your suggestion. My goal is to research and publish this project...written from a Layman's point of view (something current publications do not do). Hornady's new ARC round might be a game changer at distance. We will see. Big thanks for the info and help. Any thing else you might think of, please throw it my way. Good luck with the Coyotes (I grew up in Iowa).

 

[sable tireur]

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My goal is to research and publish this project...written from a Layman's point of view (something current publications do not do). Hornady's new ARC round might be a game changer at distance.

Good Luck with this.

The only folks claiming 'game changer' status are the advertising writers for Hornady (who have done a great job in the past deluding us). The wannnabe influencers also join in the fray just so they can say they know more than we do...

At 1,000 yards your drop will be 315 inches or 26-1/4' (feet), drift is 6.2' (feet). Your scope choice, not including add-ons, should have this much available correction or add more money for a better range of adjustments.

Personally, I'd look at another cartridge and get some better ballistic information to use when making these decisions. Sorry to make this judgment but $2,000 is simply not enough to create the rifle +scope you want, to achieve what you're asking.

Now, on the other hand, it's your money and you are certainly able to spend it as you see fit.

Enjoy the search!

 

[sp6x6]

CRAZY

 

[onethousandyrd]

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Good Luck with this.

The only folks claiming 'game changer' status are the advertising writers for Hornady (who have done a great job in the past deluding us). The wannnabe influencers also join in the fray just so they can say they know more than we do...

At 1,000 yards your drop will be 315 inches or 26-1/4' (feet), drift is 6.2' (feet). Your scope choice, not including add-ons, should have this much available correction or add more money for a better range of adjustments.

Personally, I'd look at another cartridge and get some better ballistic information to use when making these decisions. Sorry to make this judgment but $2,000 is simply not enough to create the rifle +scope you want, to achieve what you're asking.

Now, on the other hand, it's your money and you are certainly able to spend it as you see fit.

Enjoy the search!

Sir, Your not the first person to explain this challenge and I really appreciate the info. As a very young man, In basic training, with a strait away tail wind well over 20mph (Ft. Sill, Ok) I was incredibly lucky to hit a pop up at 700yrds with an M-16 A3 Shooting off a sand bag. Using 55g. Army issue 5.56 @3270fps (according to what they made us memorize...always doubted the speed but you can't argue with a drill Sergeant...) I have been hooked on the AR rifle ever since. As I have gotten older, and became somewhat knowledgeable of the limitations of that round and rifle, I realize I was indeed, lucky to hit that shot...(actually did it 3 times, twice while the senior drill was watching). The scope within my budget is the zhd520r-Zulus HD 5-20x....got it for $580.00 (new)...The cold hammer forged 20' barrel is from Palmetto State Arms...on sale $480.00 (1-7) twist. Lower is a CMMG with a Rock River Trigger $346.00. Next purchase will be a good precision platform to shoot from. Got about $600.00 to spend on this. Will rely on my phone app. for weather conditions at the time. I see your data on the 88g ARC. I considered this round but choose the 62 grain (see attached BC chart)...it's currently without wind drift but I am working on that problem. I understand the sales pitch Hornady's sending my way and will consider other rounds if unsuccessful. Always liked a challenge and just starting to enjoy my retirement. I am looking forward to what I might learn from this project and other shooters like you. PLEASE feel free to pass on any knowledge or advice....It would be welcomed. With respect...Jeff S.

 

[onethousandyrd]

My experience with the 22 ARC and factory Hornady loadings so far; the 62gr ELD-VT is a great option for moderate ranges, however the 88 grain ammo has over 20% less wind deflection @ 1000 yards and stays supersonic further. Going off the numbers the 88 grainers should be a "better" long range load. I have split the difference and been playing with the 75 ELD-M, even killed a decent buck with it with great terminal performance.

B, Big thanks for that info. On the 88g.....1-7 twist on the barrel? Barrel length? I was under the impression the 62 ARC stayed supersonic further down the line than the 88g. Firm believer in experience so....Thanks....Bottom line, go with the heavier round?

 

[onethousandyrd]

I'd save more. Glass ain't cheap.

Sir, Wife is getting suspicious.....I think I have reached my limit as far as money can hid. I think I am going to go for it but believe your are right..... JDS

 

[onethousandyrd]

CRAZY

Sp,,,,Thanks for that! Was a high school science teacher for 30 years. Could make your ears burn with some of the other things I have been called... Jumping down the rabbit hole...wish me luck.