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[Long Time Long Ranger]

The 257 Wby shooting 100 grain bullets at 3760 fps, 257 STW with same bullets in the 3800's are good for this type set up. The 300 RUM shooting 150 grain bullets around 3700 fps is also good. At 5000 feet elevation where I live you can zero these 3 1/2"- 4" high at a hundred with a mid range trajectory of 6-6 1/2" and be around 20" low at 600 yards which is very easy to figure. They make kills trivial out to 600 yards or so and I use that set up for beginniers often. You must have a bipod or good rest and get set up for any shot. Light bullets traveling very fast are good to this range. Beyond and they just drop off the table and the wind takes them for a ride.

 

[308jagermeister]

would something in a 200yrd zero hold on back @ 500yrd configuration

 

[308jagermeister]

The 257 Wby shooting 100 grain bullets at 3760 fps, 257 STW with same bullets in the 3800's are good for this type set up. The 300 RUM shooting 150 grain bullets around 3700 fps is also good. At 5000 feet elevation where I live you can zero these 3 1/2"- 4" high at a hundred with a mid range trajectory of 6-6 1/2" and be around 20" low at 600 yards which is very easy to figure. They make kills trivial out to 600 yards or so and I use that set up for beginniers often. You must have a bipod or good rest and get set up for any shot. Light bullets traveling very fast are good to this range. Beyond and they just drop off the table and the wind takes them for a ride.

is 300rum and 300wrby almost one in the same?

 

[Long Time Long Ranger]

With a 200 yard zero about 10 inches over the back with most big game animals. Depends on what you are hunting. On average the 300 RUM is about 125 fps faster than the 300 weatherby. With a 26" barrel my 300 wby's shoot the 150 grain bullet around 3550 fps, 180's at 3250-3300 fps and 200's at 3050-3100 fps. My 300 RUM's with 28" barrels shoot the 150 around 3700 fps, 180's at 3400-3450 fps and the 200's at 3200-3250 fps.

Are you a Jaegermiester in Germany or just using it as a name?

 

[308jagermeister]

With a 200 yard zero about 10 inches over the back with most big game animals. Depends on what you are hunting. On average the 300 RUM is about 125 fps faster than the 300 weatherby. With a 26" barrel my 300 wby's shoot the 150 grain bullet around 3550 fps, 180's at 3250-3300 fps and 200's at 3050-3100 fps. My 300 RUM's with 28" barrels shoot the 150 around 3700 fps, 180's at 3400-3450 fps and the 200's at 3200-3250 fps.

Are you a Jaegermiester in Germany or just using it as a name?

"The ******* Germans got nuttin to do with".

Sheriff Bufford Justice....


No just my username I'm on gulf coast...

Thanks for your reply very useful info, I did find a 7stw I may be able to score for decent price.

 

[Moman]

I use a VX-III 4.5x14x40 LR with a B&C reticle on my 300 WM shooting 180 AB's at 3050 fps. With this setup, I zero at 200 yds and can use the drops out to 500 yds. Here is a link to Leupolds site that will show you caliber/bullet configurations that will allow you to zero at 300 yds and use holdovers out to 600 yds. They are typically lighter bullets for caliber, that are shooting at high velocities. Just what LTLR was pointing out. Check out the "C" column for these loads.

It is much more accurate to use dial up but I have used these to 500 yds with great results. The drops in the reticle are setup by MOA and it's pretty easy to match these to your load and current altitude. i.e., an 8 MOA holdover will not be the same POI at 1,000 yds as it is at 8,000 yds, but it's pretty easy to make a chart for your particular situation.


http://www2.leupold.com/resources/downloads/2008_03_BAS_Engl.pdf

 

[ICANHITHIMMAN]

Im getting the sneeking felling you think the 7mm STW is going to solve your hold over issues. I may be wrong but I think your going down the wrong path.

 

[308jagermeister]

Im getting the sneeking felling you think the 7mm STW is going to solve your hold over issues. I may be wrong but I think your going down the wrong path.

my 308 only has 22" barrel and I always need a good excuse to buy new weapon...

 

[Long Time Long Ranger]

The 7mm STW is a great round and you will enjoy it. You can shoot a 140 grain bullet into the 3500's with it and with a mil dot scope or one of the trajectory reticles you will have no problem to 600 yards. You will have a dot close out to 850 or so yards. I shoot like that often on short range stuff to 800 or so yards. Take a flat shooting rifle and a mil dot scope and most times you are close enough to be on hair high or low with a dot. Makes hits fairly easy with a good cheat sheet. With a trajectory turret you can range it and turn it to that range quickly and hold dead on. Many ways to do what you want. With a trajectory turret you must get an expensive scope with guaranteed repeatable clicks. With the mil dots or trajectory reticles a Nikon Monarch is good in the $400 range. From years of experience the Leupolds are the least expensive scopes with repeatable clicks for a trajectory turret thus their popularity.

 

[308jagermeister]

Thanks Long*Time*Long*Ranger*