Resizing, before or after annealing

[MagnumManiac]

With my improved cases, I anneal before forming and then again before sizing.
Haven't lost a single case doing it this way….before doing this, depending on how much forming was necessary, I would lose between 1%-5% of cases from case splits and neck splits.
Hard brass doesn't like big changes.
I don't anneal all of my brass every firing, some don't need it for 3 firings.

Cheers.

 

[milboltnut]

before forming... good idea

 

[Mike D Texas]

I anneal before.

 

[WildRose]

some people anneal everytime.

Some certainly do but I can't see where it should be necessary and could lead to even more problems such as extra trimming and neck turning.

The softer brass is, the more it's going to flow.

 

[WildRose]

I anneal before.

Annealing after the fact would defeat the whole purpose of annealing. The point is that working it hardens brass, annealing softens it.

I can't see why anyone would think it was efficient to do it after the fact.

 

[1mechanic]

No it wouldn't be wise to do it after resizing. I was just trying to get some people to think.

There was another thread were they were talking about the time and how much heat to anneal. In it they got on the subject of over annealing and making the brass too soft. Just resizing it should work harden it enough to bring it back to provide decent neck pressure. Some talked about making it dead soft where it wouldn't even stand up to resizing. I've never seen that but I guess it can happen.

 

[WildRose]

No it wouldn't be wise to do it after resizing. I was just trying to get some people to think.

There was another thread were they were talking about the time and how much heat to anneal. In it they got on the subject of over annealing and making the brass too soft. Just resizing it should work harden it enough to bring it back to provide decent neck pressure. Some talked about making it dead soft where it wouldn't even stand up to resizing. I've never seen that but I guess it can happen.

I guess if you let it glow orange long enough that would be a possibility. I have yet to see it myself either though.

 

[1mechanic]

Yeah maybe they shouldn't be drinking and annealing at the same time lol

 

[WildRose]

Yeah maybe they shouldn't be drinking and annealing at the same time lol

I make sure the only alcohol allowed in the reloading room is 90% Isopropyl.

If you drink that you won't have any more worries anyhow.

 

[milboltnut]

Some certainly do but I can't see where it should be necessary and could lead to even more problems such as extra trimming and neck turning.

The softer brass is, the more it's going to flow.

so since you use the word could instead of will, means that it hasn't happened to you. And as far as leading to trimming and neck turning it doesn't. The only time I had to trim is when I used to completely FL size. Once I began to partially FL or better called shoulder bump I don't have to trim or turn necks. Turn necks once and that's it. The only time I have to trim is loading for my M1 GARAND

 

[ButterBean]

so since you use the word could instead of will, means that it hasn't happened to you. And as far as leading to trimming and neck turning it doesn't. The only time I had to trim is when I used to completely FL size. Once I began to partially FL or better called shoulder bump I don't have to trim or turn necks. Turn necks once and that's it. The only time I have to trim is loading for my M1 GARAND

How many times have you been here before ?

 

[milboltnut]

hey Amigo, it started out good how about we keep it that way.

 

[338 dude]

Before

 

[ButterBean]

hey Amigo, it started out good how about we keep it that way.

I just asked a simple question and I believe you just answered it