Repealing the Second Amendment of the Bill of Rights

[CaptnC]

My first response to gun control is...."ask the Venezuelans if they wish they had 350 million AR-15's or ask the Cuban people the same thing"

I guess most don' follow what is going on in Venezuela but their dying everyday fighting with sticks and stones. I've been to Cuba and I know how bad it is there. I have quite a few Cubans who also work for me. You can ask them to do the nastiest work you have and they take care of it with a smile on their face. Those people know how good they have it here in the U.S.

Folks...people here in the U.S. don't have a clue where it can go once they start down this road. My wife was born in Colombia so I've seen a lot of poor countries that don' have the protection our Constitution gives us.

I didn' have a chance to watch Mud's video but I've felt for a long time people in our Government are behind many of the shootings we've had...if you think about what' going on or the lack of it, it makes sense.

Notice how Las Vegas has not come up after the latest shooting? They screw'd the pooch so bad on that one they don' want anyone talking about it.

If you want gun control why not shoot up a big crowd of the main resistance? It didn' work plus the event was too sloopy. They made too many slip ups on that one.

FBI was so busy chasing Trump they missed hearing about this kid in Florida BS...they knew full well he was going to do it and let it happen!

Fear those who want to strip you of the ability to protect yourself from them!

 

[jbs2014]

these people want to turn us into the Soviet Union. That is their idea of paradise.

The Soviet Union has nothing on the endstate that they have in mind

 

[jbs2014]

You're kidding yerself if you think they'll ever repeal the 2nd amendment. The repub's have been trying to repeal Obamacare for 8 years. Now they control congress and the presidency and they still can't get it done.

If it ever gets to the point of the libs having that much control, all hope will be lost. They will have dismantled the military before the 2nd amendment. China and Russia will control the world and yer long range rifles and AR's will be useless when they're dropping missles on yer heads from 30,000'...

In many different conflicts across the world now and in the past determined resistance with only small arms and a fighting spirit have been able to fight powers much greater than themselves to at least a stalemate, or compel a withdraw. Even when missiles were dropped on their heads from 30000.

 

[5RWill]

What i'll never understand is this. There are countries around the world that abide by the policies they want to enact. If they're so desperate to want to live under such policies... why not move?

The more they chant repeal the 2nd the deeper they're digging honestly. The reason Trump won in the first place was that everyone was sick and tired of this BS rhetoric being forced down our throats.

What should concern us is the nickel and dime effect. No one is stupid enough to actually try and repeal the 2nd, politically speaking it's suicide. They don't have the numbers and never will. Not to mention that a notion that they would take it to convention would literally lead to a second civil war. However getting bills passed like a ban of any kind or background checks for ammo (currently both are being proposed) which be the beginning of the end. They don't necessarily have to repeal the second outright if they can outlaw and ban everything it stands for.

 

[5RWill]

You're kidding yerself if you think they'll ever repeal the 2nd amendment. The repub's have been trying to repeal Obamacare for 8 years. Now they control congress and the presidency and they still can't get it done.

If it ever gets to the point of the libs having that much control, all hope will be lost. They will have dismantled the military before the 2nd amendment. China and Russia will control the world and yer long range rifles and AR's will be useless when they're dropping missles on yer heads from 30,000'...

I'm paraphrasing from a reddit post without the profanity but essentially this.

"You cannot control an entire country and it's people with tanks, jets, battleships, and drones or any of these things that the libs so stupidly believe trumps citizen ownership of firearms.

A fighter jet, tank, drone, battleship, or whatever cannot stand on street corners and enforce "no assembly" edicts. A fighter jet cannot kick down your door at 3AM and search your house for contraband.

None of these things can maintain the needed police state to completely subjugate and enslave people of a nation. Those weapons are for decimating, fattening, and glassing large areas and may people at once and fighting other state militaries. The government (regardless of who allegedly would take over) doesn't want to kill all of it's people and blow up it's own infrastructure as they're the very things they need in the first place.

So they need boots on the ground without an armed populace to which they would be vastly outnumbered.

If you want living examples of this, look at every insurgency that the U.S. military has tried to destroy. They're all still kicking with nothing but AK-47s, pick up trucks, and IEDs because these big scary military monsters libs allude to are all but useless for dealing with them."

 

[762x51]

If you want living examples of this, look at every insurgency that the U.S. military has tried to destroy. They're all still kicking with nothing but AK-47s, pick up trucks, and IEDs because these big scary military monsters libs allude to are all but useless for dealing with them."

that's my usual response when some lefty starts spouting off that i dont need an AR15 because i can't destroy a tank with it. yes, there were other factors. but we fought vietnam to a stalemate for 10+ years while they lived in straw huts and ate rice. they had basically no air force and carried their supplies on their backs through mountainous jungle terrain.

on top of that, how many of our military men and women would stand against the people (and law enforcement for that matter). i'm definitely not afraid of fighting any lefties as they cannot even figure out what gender they are or where to go to the bathroom.

because of that, there will never be an outright ban and confiscation. it'll be a gradual and slow process over the years. taking something here, banning something here. all in the name of keeping us safe. the left views gun ownership as a conservative value, so they're attacking it. just look at the violent protests when someone deemed a conservative speaks at a college campus. you dont see that when someone viewed as a leftist comes to town. it's not an attack on the 1st amendment, it's an attack on one specific groups first amendment.

 

[DCAN]

They are using their first amend. right to try to strip us of our rights. Starting to look like we are in a "cold" civil war of sorts.
Does anyone know of a source where we can determine what companies support anti 2A causes? That would be a handy list to have. Take aim at the bank account and hit them where it hurts the most.

 

[Loggerdude]

Come to Oregon, the liberals are going after the automatic guns. You will have to surrender them. I'm moving to Idaho.

 

[Loggerdude]

It's not a gun problem, it's a people problem. If true justice was served it would deter the folks who commit these senseless acts. Instead we put them on a pedistal pay unrealistic amounts to watch them die incarcerated as they appeal our puppet judicial system. An eye for an eye, if you comit the crime there's should be equaled punishment and the rest should pay their way through hard labor. If you don't work you don't eat, a great way to encourage someone to work hard. Omo

 

[Riflehunter1776]

This is a famous quote by somebody who went through the concentration camps in a socialist system, just like millions of other people who didn't stand up when they had the opportunity, but rather just went along in fear and trusted the government to be fair with them. I edited a few words for ease of understanding.

"And how we burned in the [concentration] camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every [secret policeman], when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their [homes], paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The [government executioners] would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed [system] would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward."


Axes, hammers, and pokers he said. Imagine how a million AR-15's would have curtailed the whole thing.

 

[762x51]

It's not a gun problem, it's a people problem. If true justice was served it would deter the folks who commit these senseless acts. Instead we put them on a pedistal pay unrealistic amounts to watch them die incarcerated as they appeal our puppet judicial system. An eye for an eye, if you comit the crime there's should be equaled punishment and the rest should pay their way through hard labor. If you don't work you don't eat, a great way to encourage someone to work hard. Omo

100% agree, our judicial system is a joke. that "affluenza teen" murdered 4 people while he was drunk driving and served only 2 years. 2 years! that's all 4 lives are worth. he's 20 years old and still has his whole life ahead of him. instead of punishing the criminals, we look for ways to make excuses why it isnt their fault.

 

[MudRunner2005]

 

[left handed gun]

Even for a 97 year old retired justice, this is through the looking glass.

I've studied a fair amount of American history. I can't come up with any previous, serious effort to do away with one of the first eight amendments in the Bill of Rights, i.e. freedom of speech and religion, bearing arms, illegal search and seizures, rights against self incrimination, rights against cruel and unusual punishment (NOT against merely capital punishment--more like drawing and quartering, burning at the stake and so forth), rights to jury trials and against excessive bail. Even some of the gun control cheerleaders admitted Stevens didn't help their cause any.

If anyone knows of some previous figure coming out for repeal of Amendments 1-8 of the bill of rights, I'd be interested to hear who and what was the context. I do know Lincoln suspended habeas corpus for a while during the Civil War, but he invoked the emergency of what was the country's bloodiest war. And he caught flak for it.

Bill of Rights was originally included because many people did not like the idea of a stronger central government, with a president, executive branch and so forth. So the first ten amendments were basically put in as checks on central power. And had the Bill of Rights NOT been included, the constitution would have been a deal killer, to put it bluntly.

The media is putting an all out blitz behind this like nothing I've seen. I was alive when the 1968 gun control acts came out, but too young to vote or follow much of that.

 

[CaptnC]

Isn' there something about dismantling or attacking the constatution being an act of treason?