Snyper708
Well-Known Member
- Joined
- Dec 12, 2017
- Messages
- 114
Yes, it would be pointless since reality isn't going to change.
-
If you are being asked to change your password, and unsure how to do it, follow these instructions. Click here
Reloading advice
- Thread starter Elkeater
- Start date
Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum
WildRose
Well-Known Member
The reality is that every chamber and barrel are different and the only way most of us have to tell is to look for pressure signs and when we see them back off.
Snyper708
Well-Known Member
- Joined
- Dec 12, 2017
- Messages
- 114
That really doesn't change what I said in any way.
Is that 100 thousandths of a inch ?
Gregg
P.S. Sorry if I missed the cartridge, but, what cartridge ?
Gregg
Snyper708
Well-Known Member
- Joined
- Dec 12, 2017
- Messages
- 114
Nothing is "too close" if it works in your rifle.
People tend to overthink these things.
Personally, with my being rather inexperienced at load development, I prefer to stay out of the lands, no jamming. At least .010 off, giving the bullet a little jump. If you have not read Making it Shoot, it is a great, informative read. And it's specifically aimed at Bergers ! Hopefully some of the gurus will chime in. I'm interested in this as well.
Gregg
Gregg
SidecarFlip
Well-Known Member
3 things I never discuss on any forum..
1. What propellant I use and how much
2. How I prep my brass and what brand of primers and boolits I use
3. Anything pertaining to my personal life.
1. What propellant I use and how much
2. How I prep my brass and what brand of primers and boolits I use
3. Anything pertaining to my personal life.
WildRose
Well-Known Member
That's a really good idea especially for the novice loader. Jamming into or even starting just off the lands is a great way to get a massive pressure spike and the associated problems that comes with same.
Of course one of the biggest dangers associated with having done it forever without a catastrophic failure tends to encourage the more experienced to keep pushing the limits. Very few of us will ever blow up or seriously damage a gun but it's us who are most likely to push it too far eventually.
I always start just below standard mag lengths, find a good load and then if needed start tweaking seating depths.
VLD's tend to be much more sensitive to seating depth preferring little to no jump though which is one of the reasons I've largely avoided using them.
WildRose
Well-Known Member
What does Berger recommend?
Per Berger:
Load 24 rounds at the following COAL if you are a hunter (pulling a bullet out of the case with your rifling while in the field can be a hunt ending event which must be avoided) or a competition shooter who worries about pulling a bullet during a match:
1. .010 off the lands (jump) 6 rounds
2. .050 off the lands (jump) 6 rounds
3. .090 off the lands (jump) 6 rounds
4. .130 off the lands (jump) 6 rounds
Shoot 2 (separate) 3 shot groups in fair conditions to see how they group. The remarkable reality of this test is that one of these 4 COALs will outperform the other three by a considerable margin. Once you know which one of these 4 COAL shoots best then you can tweak the COAL +/- .002 or .005. Taking the time to set this test up will pay off when you find that your rifle is capable of shooting the VLD bullets very well (even at 100 yards).
WildRose
Well-Known Member
That sounds familiar, doesn't seem like they've changed much.
That's where I'd start.
