Rangefinder binos

[Coyote Shadow Tracker]

Is there any need for a laser binocular to have AB installed, when I have a Kestrel AB elite X?

When you have it set up correctly you can Range your target and get a shooting solution at the same time. I liked it for hunting chucks. As soon as I saw a chuck in the field I could range and get data to set my scope or go off the grid in my scope. A lot faster when needed when the grass was getting high and had to shoot fast because you could only see the chuck when the stood up.. Didn't have time to look at my Kestrel.
In the olden days we had Binos, a RF and a DOPE Card.
Now you can look through your Binos, get the yardage and shooting solution all at once.
These new RF Binos can also connect BT directly to your Krestel with your DATA.

 

[DocUSMCRetired]

Is there any need for a laser binocular to have AB installed, when I have a Kestrel AB elite X?

Only if you want it to work with the new upcoming app, and inside the AB Ecosystem. If it doesn't have some kind of AB Protocol then it will not connect to things like the Kestrel in the future due to encryption requirements.

 

[rolltide]

I haven't found any direct comparisons between the new Leica with AB and the Gen 2 Sig 10K.

Does anyone have any firsthand experience with both?

I don't get the opportunity for many long-range shots when I'm hunting, but I do shoot a fair amount of PRS, Rimfire PRS, and Long Range matches.

I want to replace my original Leica Geovids with a new all-in-one solution that will account for shooting at angles while having great glass.
I assume the Leica's win in the glass category but I don't know how they stack up to the Sigs for the ballistic solver.

 

[RH300UM]

Leica Geovid Pro 10x42 AB+

When every second counts, the Leica Geovid Pro 10 x 42 AB+ displays ballistic functions up to the maximum. In less than 0.3 seconds, the on-board computer outputs the measured distance, plus – a brand-new feature – the probability of an exact hit. The Leica Geovid Pro 10 x 42 AB+ boasts absolute...

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These are my next purchase

 

[DocUSMCRetired]

I haven't found any direct comparisons between the new Leica with AB and the Gen 2 Sig 10K.

Does anyone have any firsthand experience with both?

I don't get the opportunity for many long-range shots when I'm hunting, but I do shoot a fair amount of PRS, Rimfire PRS, and Long Range matches.

I want to replace my original Leica Geovids with a new all-in-one solution that will account for shooting at angles while having great glass.
I assume the Leica's win in the glass category but I don't know how they stack up to the Sigs for the ballistic solver.

They both use the same engine. They both have temp , pressure, inclination, and direction of fire sensors built in.

 

[rolltide]

They both use the same engine. They both have temp , pressure, inclination, and direction of fire sensors built in.

So is it fair to say that the performance should be the same with both? I'm looking for an option that will provide the solutions when shooting at steep angles and provide corrected calculations.

 

[DocUSMCRetired]

So is it fair to say that the performance should be the same with both? I'm looking for an option that will provide the solutions when shooting at steep angles and provide corrected calculations.

The Sig will range slightly better (5% - 10% maybe at the most).

 

[Taylorbok]

@DocUSMCRetired we still want our sig's to push DOF to the kestrel.

 

[DocUSMCRetired]

@DocUSMCRetired we still want our sig's to push DOF to the kestrel.

I just tested my Sig Kilo 10K Gen 2 with the 5700X and it pushed DOF, Inclination, and Range to the Kestrel.

 

[DocUSMCRetired]

I tested this with the Leica Geovid Pro Ballistics (Tan version) and the same. It pushed DOF, Inclination, and Range to the Garmin Watch and the Kestrel 5700X.

 

[Taylorbok]

I just tested my Sig Kilo 10K Gen 2 with the 5700X and it pushed DOF, Inclination, and Range to the Kestrel.

I wonder if that's a new patch.
My Gen 1's don't unless it was recently fixed in an update.
I will see if there's any updates and try to report back later this afternoon.

(sorry this is repetitive on 2 forums but I know not everyone is on both)

 

[DocUSMCRetired]

I wonder if that's a new patch.
My Gen 1's don't unless it was recently fixed in an update.
I will see if there's any updates and try to report back later this afternoon.

(sorry this is repetitive on 2 forums but I know not everyone is on both)

This is on my Sig Kilo 10K Gen 2 Engineering Test Unit.

 

[JMM1990]

I have the Swarovski el range ta 10x42, I think they are a great option. The glass is great, and the range finder is accurate. However, I am contemplating on selling them and getting a set of NL Pures and running the revic BR4 for the more advanced ballistics options.