My buddies are moving away from the Eberlestocks toward the KUIU Icon 3200 and 5200's. Rifles can be mounted on the sides, they're built to carry meat and they weigh a lot less than the Eberlestocks. I only have Eberlestocks, a gunslinger and a Just One. I like them both but the Just One is so heavy and the gunslinger doesn't work for a meat pack. I insist on having a pack that will carry a quarter out with me on the first trip. All those extra miles to go get a pack frame is just ridiculous