Optic help

[jd5521]

Any details: good compared to what?
Tracking accurate and repeatable?

It was my buddies rifle so I didn't get a chance to put it through the paces if it was mine but Tracking was good and zero was repeatable but only took it out to 600. The rifle it was on with it shot 3/4 or better moa all the way out. If I had to compare glass quality it was better than with the vortex pst I was shooting that day as well. The turrets on the Arken were crisper than the vortex. That's about all I have on it.

 

[Andrew Massi]

It was my buddies rifle so I didn't get a chance to put it through the paces if it was mine but Tracking was good and zero was repeatable but only took it out to 600. The rifle it was on with it shot 3/4 or better moa all the way out. If I had to compare glass quality it was better than with the vortex pst I was shooting that day as well. The turrets on the Arken were crisper than the vortex. That's about all I have on it.

Thanks
Like I said in the post above yours, this name keep popping up but not really any testing to speak of. One on youtube the guys did a redneck box test in his back yard and it tracked well. Not many real world tests being done yet

 

[dfanonymous]

Man this name keeps popping up here and over on rokslide. The oldest review I can find is from may of 2019 and that was 50 rounds.
When did you get this optic and what have you done with it that makes you such a strong believer.

Strong believer is one thing. I have no idea about it's durability, yet, so in that respect I'm not comparing it be a replacement to a S&B. That said, it's relatively new, but since I know people that know people I've had some inside previews to it.

As to what I've done with it...I've used it??


I've personally tested the 6-24x50's tracking and repeatability. It's solid. To skip the boring details, test was done with a sniperhide mil tracking target, then with dope out to 1780 yards with known dope. Zero stop is solid. Clarity is of the usual Japanese/Asian origin. Pretty much like ever other scope in its price range.
If it was $1200 or something, then I'd say there are comparable if not better scopes in the price range, but for its price point you are getting a lot of features. As well as a lifetime warranty.

 

[dfanonymous]

But they are all mil FFP with no illumination arent they? I guess for a designated range gun that is fine. For hunting I think you have to have illumination on an FFP scope.

Yeah pretty sure they are all mil with no illumination. The standard of using the low setting of a illuminated reticle being a requirement for low light shooting I think is subjective in general. I see the appeal, however.

 

[PredatorSlayer]

Yeah pretty sure they are all mil with no illumination. The standard of using the low setting of a illuminated reticle being a requirement for low light shooting I think is subjective in general. I see the appeal, however.

For me, when an FFP scope is on low power, the illumination turns the scope into a useful red dot of sorts when close shots are probable in lower light. Like sneaking around in the pines etc.

 

[BlazerBeam]

The best scopes I feel that I have ever had are my VX6hd and VX5hd. I have cortex and night force as well, but those leupolds are my favorite

 

[BIGNHEAVY]

On that list of run VX5 but another to look at is a Zeiss V4, they will stomp the glass on any of last list, they track well and have a good warranty.

 

[shooters]

On that list of run VX5 but another to look at is a Zeiss V4, they will stomp the glass on any of last list, they track well and have a good warranty.

Thanks, but I just can't do Zeiss anymore. I had an HD5 that went in that was 4 days old for a reticle that went bonkers and then a new V6 that had a broken parallax. Kinda gave up on them. Glass was good though, especially on the V6

 

[lancetkenyon]

Out of your list, I have shot behind all but the Riton and Bushnell Forge. But you have apples to oranges in your list. SFP and FFP scope selections.
My choice would go like this: (I am a FFP guy all the way)
Athlon Cronus
Burris XTR
Sig Whiskey 5
Sig Tango 4
Leupold VX5
Viper PST Gen 2
Bushnell Forge
Riton RTS

The only reason for the Forge and Riton being at the bottom is I have never seen or handled one.
I am not a fan of Leupold at all. Way too many cases of failures. But the glass is very good in them.

 

[milo-2]

I am not a fan of Leupold at all. Way too many cases of failures. But the glass is very good in them.

I have to ask, concerning failures. Is it the dial models that have so many issues, or older non turret models giving up?
Failures at inopportune times really sours a guy, I know, and that weighs heavy.
But if a guy looked at the shear number of older Leupold scopes on hunting rifles that were zeroed with crappy rings, on non aligned base screws, that finally gave up on the annual check zero before a hunt, and now getting it to hold zero is futile and taking these out of the equation, Leupolds reputation is not that bad.

To the OP, I demand clarity, I need to see what I am shooting at, yes I like repeatability too, but of your choices, it would be Leupold for me. I try not to make decisions based off "what if's", and being my life is not on the line when shooting, I'd let Leupolds exemplary customer service weigh in on my decision. They repair w/o question, turn around times are great, and I have really never read a bad comment concerning their warranty, other than the model was discontinued yrs ago, and now this is your equivalent replacement.
I sent a pair of Swarovski binocs off, went to Germany, 9 months. I am sure they have a US repair facility today, and I am not complaining, they supplied a list of any model I could use in the interim.

 

[david g ranes]

I have to ask, concerning failures. Is it the dial models that have so many issues, or older non turret models giving up?
Failures at inopportune times really sours a guy, I know, and that weighs heavy.
But if a guy looked at the shear number of older Leupold scopes on hunting rifles that were zeroed with crappy rings, on non aligned base screws, that finally gave up on the annual check zero before a hunt, and now getting it to hold zero is futile and taking these out of the equation, Leupolds reputation is not that bad.

To the OP, I demand clarity, I need to see what I am shooting at, yes I like repeatability too, but of your choices, it would be Leupold for me. I try not to make decisions based off "what if's", and being my life is not on the line when shooting, I'd let Leupolds exemplary customer service weigh in on my decision. They repair w/o question, turn around times are great, and I have really never read a bad comment concerning their warranty, other than the model was discontinued yrs ago, and now this is your equivalent replacement.
I sent a pair of Swarovski binocs off, went to Germany, 9 months. I am sure they have a US repair facility today, and I am not complaining, they supplied a list of any model I could use in the interim.

Midway has the forge scope in sfp selling right now for 399 with a free custom turret you can't go to far wrong we've bought 2 in the last month I don't think you would be disappointed try one. David

 

[milo-2]

Midway has the forge scope in sfp selling right now for 399 with a free custom turret you can't go to far wrong we've bought 2 in the last month I don't think you would be disappointed try one. David

Cool, I am not in the market for an optic right now though.

 

[lancetkenyon]

Most of the Leupold failures I have personally heard of (not just read about) have been on models built to dial. Not the 300 yard 3-9×40s that never get touched.
But....most of those 3-9×40s that never get dialed are not shot a lot like the ones designed to dial. I have a buddy who has gone through three VX5HDs in less than a year, the last one gave up after 50 rounds of 7RM. Service was always phenomenal. But I would not trust a brand new one on a once in a lifetime hunt. I had one that went belly up after about 600 rounds too. Sent it in, new one back in about a week. Sold it when it came back.

I get it that there are a lot of Leupolds out there. And probably only 1% of them ever have an issue. Just not a chance I am willing to take.

I also get that even S&B, Tangent Theta, ZCO, Hensoldt, Premier, etc. have an occasional issue. But I will take my chances on them.

I have scopes with 5000+ rounds under them (from 6CM to 28 Nosler) that get passed around like a second string cheerleader with low self-esteem issues. Not a single problem. I will gladly pay extra for peace of mind.

 

[milo-2]

Most of the Leupold failures I have personally heard of (not just read about) have been on models built to dial. Not the 300 yard 3-9×40s that never get touched.
But....most of those 3-9×40s that never get dialed are not shot a lot like the ones designed to dial. I have a buddy who has gone through three VX5HDs in less than a year, the last one gave up after 50 rounds of 7RM. Service was always phenomenal. But I would not trust a brand new one on a once in a lifetime hunt. I had one that went belly up after about 600 rounds too. Sent it in, new one back in about a week. Sold it when it came back.

I get it that there are a lot of Leupolds out there. And probably only 1% of them ever have an issue. Just not a chance I am willing to take.

I also get that even S&B, Tangent Theta, ZCO, Hensoldt, Premier, etc. have an occasional issue. But I will take my chances on them.

I have scopes with 5000+ rounds under them (from 6CM to 28 Nosler) that get passed around like a second string cheerleader with low self-esteem issues. Not a single problem. I will gladly pay extra for peace of mind.

Ok, understood, I do not get to be around too many Leupolds today, my group in the same boat buying high end optics.
Thanks for the clarification.