In order for a cartridge to die it has to be alive first, the STW was still born, it never will be old school or out if date because it never was in, the 6.5x55 and 06, still relevant and time proven and factory gun still being chambered in them to date, STW has none of this, being a turd does not make it classic or old school, I shoot a LOT of old school stuff, 45-70, 40-65, 45-90, Lancaster pattern flint lock, rolling block, Sharps, so old school, classic cartridges have time proven appeal and performance and are relevant because of that, the STW has zero of that so no need to stalk every Nosler thread and bring up the donkey turd STW!!