OK, My turn on the 6.5 Creedmoor

[letzhunt]

I have a rebarreled Sako 75 that has a Bartlien barrel. I'm s a .260 Rem .... it's super accurate but when it gets shot out it will then become a 6.5 CM. Why ?....because The design is better for loading better BC bullets.
My feeling is where Remington really screwed up was when they made their rifles with a 1/9 twist. That didn't support the loading of high BC heavier bullets

 

[JAYgs8163]

Try some RL 26 and watch your velocity go close to 3k ft per second with no pressure signs. It's magic for extra velocity out of the 6.5Creed and doesn't ruin your barrel. I run 48.5 grains with with 140 Bergers and am pushing 2950-2975 fps. Dime size 5 shot groups and 3.4 fps SD.

 

[JAYgs8163]

Do not let Hitllary know

Would that then be "Hornady Collusion".

 

[MudRunner2005]

Try some RL 26 and watch your velocity go close to 3k ft per second with no pressure signs. It's magic for extra velocity out of the 6.5Creed and doesn't ruin your barrel. I run 58.5 grains with with 140 Bergers and am pushing 2950-2975 fps. Dime size 5 shot groups and 3.4 fps SD.

Will that case even fit 58.5gr of any type of powder? I'd be surprised if it even fit 48.5gr of powder with a bullet in it. The .308 Win tops out around 56, and it's a bigger case with a bigger bore diameter. According to the interwebz the 6.5CM tops out around 52 grains of H2O... And that's measured all the way to the case mouth.

That sounds like more of that magic I was talking about...

 

[Barrelnut]

I run 58.5 grains with with 140 Bergers and am pushing 2950-2975 fps. Dime size 5 shot groups and 3.4 fps SD.

Do you mean 48.5?

 

[Troutslayer2]

Best thing about 6.5 is that since I changed to it and the eldx, I only have to bring 1 bullet elk hunting. I used to be weighed down by extra bullets but no need with this cross canyon laser beam of a cartridge. Heck you don't even need a rangefinder if you're shooting less than maybe 950 yds.

 

[Tidus56]

I've had 2 .308 Wins that shot/shoots .1xx" 1-hole groups on common occasion, and averages .25x" 5-shot groups. One factory, one custom. One with handlodas, one with factory match ammo. I wouldn't say that there is something magical about the 6.5CM, I would just say that some rifles are simply more accurate than others, and technology is helping to improve this for factory rifles of all brands. It helps when you have only 1 reamer standard, and all factory rifles seem to stick to this reamer print specs when chambering their rifles. That helps a lot.

One got stolen, I still have the other one.

The one reamer standard is what I believe makes the biggest difference.

 

[Canhunter35]

Inherent accuracy does exist.
308...prime example. More factory loads will shoot in a 308 than a lot of cartridges
Hornady designed the 6.5 saami reamer then builds the ammo and surprise it's accurate. That's not marketing, it's design.
Buy a 204 ruger. I can barely make my handloads more accurate or faster than their ammo.
That's design not marketing...just saying

 

[Tidus56]

Do you mean 48.5?

The max I have ever been able to get is 49.5, so I am sure he means 48.5. His velocity is just a little under what I get with that charge.

 

[HobieH3]

Well by design certain cartidges are more inherently accurate than others. Not that most all can't be made to shoot. But take the 6mm br and 6mm ppc and dasher. Specifically a shorter fatter case with a steeper shoulder angle. The 308 for example is more inherently accurate than the 30/06 because of these features.

308 vs 30-06: the two can push the same bullet at the same velocity. How is one "more accurate"?

 

[MudRunner2005]

Accuracy has to do with a very large combination of things. Because accuracy should really be called "repeatability". 1 simple thing cannot create accuracy. Therefore, no such thing as "inherently accurate" cartridges or guns.

 

[FIGJAM]

I have never bought into the hype that there are inherently accurate cartridges. There are inherently accuract rifles and ammo, and shooters, but not cartridges. Those same rifles everybody is claiming are accurate with the 6.5 creed are accurate with any other round as long as they use the same quality ammo and don't flinch when they pull the trigger like a *****. I think the creed hype has finally decreased the flinch aspect of other bigger cartridges that all these creed guys used to shoot. I guess if you said inherently accurate equals low recoil - then maybe I would buy that.

 

[Creedmoor shooter]

Will that case even fit 58.5gr of any type of powder? I'd be surprised if it even fit 48.5gr of powder with a bullet in it. The .308 Win tops out around 56, and it's a bigger case with a bigger bore diameter. According to the interwebz the 6.5CM tops out around 52 grains of H2O... And that's measured all the way to the case mouth.

That sounds like more of that magic I was talking about...

I think he meant 48.5. My accuracy load was 48 grains at 2945 fps(140 eld) and I stopped at 49 grains which hit 3014.

 

[MudRunner2005]

308 vs 30-06: the two can push the same bullet at the same velocity. How is one "more accurate"?

Exactly my point!