New proposed ATF powder registry

[gohring3006]

No body seems to be talking about the part of the language that says magazines.
You would think that if they were only concerned about black powder then the word magazine wouldn't be used.
I can't think of any black powder firearms that use a magazine

Gunpowder magazine - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[victor3ranger]

I don't have any confidence that they will interpret it that way

 

[idcwby]

As I'm looking into this more, if you want to know what an explosive is you have request the list.

§ 555.23 List of explosive materials.

The Director shall compile a list of explosive materials, which shall be published and revised at least annually in the Federal Register. The "List of Explosive Materials" (ATF Publication 5400.8) is available at no cost upon request from the ATF Distribution Center (See § 555.21).If

If smokeless powder isn't on that list we don't have to worry today, but since it's updated yearly, who's to say it won't be down the road.

 

[ARlife4me]

Cigarettes are in a magazine also

 

[Laguna Freak]

What they are proposing will require every homeowner, renter, business owner, etc with a can of gasoline, charcoal lighter fluid, firecrackers, or a bic lighter to report to local fire safety. They should instead adopt a rule that requires local fire safety to assume every property contains explosive material, and to respond accordingly.

 

[Mark37082]

I am seeing more building codes in communities require fire suppression in new homes. While this does assist local fire fighters in containing house fires, it introduces other issues for the home owner. Potential water damage and the significant expense of installation are the primary issues. I don't worry about fire in my reloading room other than complete loss from water damage.

 

[Chadp82]

Home Owners Insurance - I have not heard anything or see anything in our HO Policy that refers to having reloading or ammo in our home and insurance rates increasing.

Just to add… My insurance agent and I had this conversation. When I bought my house I asked because I had reloading equipment, 'cough cough' powder and stuff.

He said as long I was storing powder in its original commercial container, it was for personal use, and I was only using it for it's intended purpose (reloading ammo), I didn't need to do anything special on my insurance. He said quantity wasn't a factor. It all changes if it goes beyond personal use. Can't speak to other's policies though.

 

[Chadp82]

I don't have any confidence that they will interpret it that way

Just tell them you had "clips".

(Sorry - a little bad humor for the morning, now, off to the caffeination machine….)

 

[338 dude]

Where are you buying powder they don't record DL? Every single powder purchase for me in CA in 20 years has been analog recorded.

Free states

 

[338 dude]

If home insurance could get dropped because of reloading powder being an explosive, then better not keep the vehicles filled full or have gas cans inside also!

Aerosol cans also explode when put into a fire, how many of them do you have under your sink?

 

[Laguna Freak]

Aerosol cans also explode when put into a fire, how many of them do you have under your sink?

Exactly! Along with bottles of ammonia, which undergoes phase change to an explosive gas when heated by fire.

We all need to be bombarding our Reps and Sens about reigning in all of the blatant attempts by the Demonrat ATF to circumvent our Constitutional rights to privacy and self defense.

 

[Laguna Freak]

This says smokeless powder intended/labeled for use in small arms ammunition is exempted by 18 USC Chapter 40. That "should" mean no governmental agency may regulate in the absence of explicit Congressional authorization.

Is smokeless powder designed for use in small arms ammunition subject to the explosives storage requirements? | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

Smokeless powders designed for use in small arms ammunition are exempt from regulation under 18 U.S.C. Chapter 40 and the regulations in 27 CFR Part 555. Packaging that readily identifies the smokeless powder as being designed for use in small arms ammunition may help in determining whether it...

www.atf.gov

 

[Laguna Freak]

This says smokeless powder intended/labeled for use in small arms ammunition is exempted by 18 USC Chapter 40. That "should" mean no governmental agency may regulate in the absence of explicit Congressional authorization.

Is smokeless powder designed for use in small arms ammunition subject to the explosives storage requirements? | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

Smokeless powders designed for use in small arms ammunition are exempt from regulation under 18 U.S.C. Chapter 40 and the regulations in 27 CFR Part 555. Packaging that readily identifies the smokeless powder as being designed for use in small arms ammunition may help in determining whether it...

www.atf.gov

Which also means this regulation is not applicable to small arms powder: https://www.atf.gov/explosives/qa/may-person-store-explosive-materials-residence-or-dwelling

 

[memtb]

This says smokeless powder intended/labeled for use in small arms ammunition is exempted by 18 USC Chapter 40. That "should" mean no governmental agency may regulate in the absence of explicit Congressional authorization.

Is smokeless powder designed for use in small arms ammunition subject to the explosives storage requirements? | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

Smokeless powders designed for use in small arms ammunition are exempt from regulation under 18 U.S.C. Chapter 40 and the regulations in 27 CFR Part 555. Packaging that readily identifies the smokeless powder as being designed for use in small arms ammunition may help in determining whether it...

www.atf.gov

Which brings me back to my earlier comment…..when has the "rule of law" ever interfered with the agenda of the leftest now in control of our nation! memtb