New girl, just starting long range

[Turpentine21]

My AR10 I built is a .308 with a 20" barrel. I have a Vortex Viper PST II 5-25x50 FFP, MRAD
the trigger is a CMC 3.5 lb single stage
I generally use Nosler
The Bergara i want is the B-14 HMR either 6.5 Creedmoor OR a .300 Win Mag and ill buy either another Vortex, or go with a Leupold Mark 5HD... but truth be told, i love my Vortex... so ill probably get another.

My AR10 with 20" barrel likes 168 Amax's and at its best is an 800 yard gun. Wind pushes it around quite a bit at that distance. On a calm day it will shoot 3" 3 shot groups at 600. Not sure what grain bullets you are shooting but I consider 168s a good minimum at 600 and 175 Sierra or 178 hornady would likely do a bit better. The 168 eldm has a high ballistic coefficient for the 168 class and does really well

 

[GSRetrievers]

I'm curious, because I live in a state that has fewer gun and hunting restrictions, if you can have an ar-10 why can you not have a bolt gun?

 

[Ol' Red]

I was stationed at Ft. Lewis in Washington a long time ago. We were able shoot on Weyerhaeuser land back then. They had large strips of property. I don't know if they still allow trespassing today for shooters and hunters. Anyone from Washington have knowledge on that?

 

[Prokaryote]

I'm curious, because I live in a state that has fewer gun and hunting restrictions, if you can have an ar-10 why can you not have a bolt gun?

hello! many people that live in the Puget Sound general vicinity do not like the second amendment. they moved to this state from other states and brought their negative 2nd amendment beliefs... sooooooo to that end, a new law was recently passed that banned many things, including buying a new rifle that has an evil, scary "pistol" style grip. so, yes, I can own a bolt rifle, but the one I like, has one of those evil, scary, integrated "pistol" style grips. if a person (the FFL) would actually read the law, they would see that any bolt rifle, regardless of how it looks, is legal in my state... but that would require reading and research. That's also why its very difficult for me to buy maintenance parts for my AR15, and AR10, despite that being legal.

 

[GSRetrievers]

hello! many people that live in the Puget Sound general vicinity do not like the second amendment. they moved to this state from other states and brought their negative 2nd amendment beliefs... sooooooo to that end, a new law was recently passed that banned many things, including buying a new rifle that has an evil, scary "pistol" style grip. so, yes, I can own a bolt rifle, but the one I like, has one of those evil, scary, integrated "pistol" style grips. if a person (the FFL) would actually read the law, they would see that any bolt rifle, regardless of how it looks, is legal in my state... but that would require reading and research. That's also why it's very difficult for me to buy maintenance parts for my AR15, and AR10, despite that being legal.

I'm having trouble finding that law, do you have a link? I don't see how it would apply to the hmr

 

[slv hunter]

Welcome from Colorado, enjoy

 

[Hugger-4641]

I'm having trouble finding that law, do you have a link? I don't see how it would apply to the hmr

She's saying that the law actually doesn't prohibit the Begara stock, but FFLs in her state are interpreting it that way. She could probably go to another state to buy it, but I wouldn't want to hassle with LE or FFL who think it is illegal.

 

[GSRetrievers]

She's saying that the law actually doesn't prohibit the Begara stock, but FFLs in her state are interpreting it that way. She could probably go to another state to buy it, but I wouldn't want to hassle with LE or FFL who think it is illegal.

I just want to see the law that is being confused.

 

[RobertLehman]

Welcome from NE Ohio.

 

[Turpentine21]

She's saying that the law actually doesn't prohibit the Begara stock, but FFLs in her state are interpreting it that way. She could probably go to another state to buy it, but I wouldn't want to hassle with LE or FFL who think it is illegal.

If that is indeed the case I would likely purchase one simply on principle. I know there is a whole different mind set there vs. where I'm from but I don't cotton to the idea of being subject to laws that are interpreted incorrectly or don't exist.

 

[med358-boise]

Hello everyone.
I'm a newb to long rang shooting. started about 1.5 years ago, and can finally consistently hit steel out to 400 yards. 600 yards is very sporadic, because I need to keep practicing my trigger squeeze. Unfortunately, there are not that many places to go here. probably like everyone else, id like to some day hit a mile, but i was told id probably need a different rifle. I currently use an AR10 that I built myself, and I'm very proud of it. eventually id also like a Bergara B14.

-Michelle

If you are consistently hitting say 10 inch steel at 400, shoot at the 6 inch steel at 400 instead. If you don't have access to various steel, take the longest range that you can set up a paper target at an simulate a 8 or10 inch target at 600. For example, if you can set paper at 200, draw the outline of a 3" inch circle at 200 on a solid white background and work at keeping your shots in the circle. You will have just simulated a 9 inch circular steel target at 600.

 

[GSRetrievers]

If that is indeed the case I would likely purchase one simply on principle. I know there is a whole different mind set there vs. where I'm from but I don't cotton to the idea of being subject to laws that are interpreted incorrectly or don't exist.

Also I can't imagine every ffl holder is misinterpreting the law when there is money to be made.

 

[Turpentine21]

Precisely. Not only that but there are quite a few of our local law enforcement guys that simply would not enforce such a law. Again. Not sure about the mindset there

 

[huntinfool18]

Buy the barreled action, ship it to your ffl, buy a stock and ship it to your house, you get the rifle you want, problem solved.