New Bullet Concept… CRAZY?

[AussieWriter]

A dollar certainly doesn't get much anymore that's for sure

If you had told me a decade ago that people would be frothing at the mouth fighting each other to be first in line to buy primers at way over 10 bucks per hundred or their favourite powders for 80-100 bucks I'd have laughed

Clinton, Obama, Biden........
Maybe there's a pattern there?

 

[Petey308]

The funny side is that they were around $1 per bullet which the market didn't take to and now most all premiums are $1-2 and we buy them.

Guess everyone is wealthier these days?

I'd be curious what the MRX would sell for nowadays after everything else has gone up.

 

[AussieWriter]

I'd be curious what the MRX would sell for nowadays after everything else has gone up.

Barnes was smart, same sized pack, about the same price, but the foam insert spaced out the bullets in 4 rows of 5. Needed a few boxes to get load development done and a few for hunting.

 

[Calvin45]

Clinton, Obama, Biden........
Maybe there's a pattern there?

Maybe…maybe not honestly. I vote conservative but i don't think it's as easy as just attributing everything bad to politicians we don't like. There is also the matter of supply and demand, and the sheer volume of demand, the amount of guns and ammo and reloading stuff being sold, COVID panic buying of everything a few years back, multiple international conflicts…

That hasn't helped. I honestly feel like COVID and the restrictions and labour disruptions and panic buying that came with it just broke the world in so many ways. I told someone the other day, in my mind and memory there are two worlds. The world before 2020 and the world after. Everything really got crazy feeling and nothings the same now, everyone's more divided and extreme in their "for me or against me" rhetoric whether left or right wing, and good grief this "new normal" of prices is just unbearable.

There's also been no shortage of greed at play. Whether it's reloading components or groceries, it seems that they're all realizing just how much they can get away with charging for some things, that people really will pay that much. I know that's capitalism and free market and supply and demand and also how things have been run for a long time, just natural order of things, BUT it really does seem different now than before COVID, the level of profiteering off of desperation, demand, and citing "disruptions" as a reason to double the price of everything.

One thing I do know….a small handful of people must be making a boatload of money off of all this. And regardless of what a person believes about COVID and the response to it around the world, I think we all agree that no shortage of crooked characters milked that cow for all it was worth and made A LOT of money off of the troubles of others.

Wait…I think I lost my train of thought! What were we talking about again?

 

[Horse1]

Pretty sure Winchester Black Talon rifle projectiles from the mid-late 90's pre-dated the Barnes MRX regarding a tungsten rear core.

It's not impossible, but, I bet keeping the projectile's axis of rotation mirrored over the projectiles axis of centerline is challenging and expensive. I'm no engineer, but, the less malleable the material is, the challenginer mirroring the axis gets I suspect.

 

[Calvin45]

Pretty sure Winchester Black Talon rifle projectiles from the mid-late 90's pre-dated the Barnes MRX regarding a tungsten rear core.

It's not impossible, but, I bet keeping the projectile's axis of rotation mirrored over the projectiles axis of centerline is challenging and expensive. I'm no engineer, but, the less malleable the material is, the challenginer mirroring the axis gets I suspect.

I don't think black talons had tungsten in them. Just standard hollow points (pistol) or Winchester failsafes (rifle) with that oh so sexy black lubalox (just copper oxide) coating. It's not teflon. It was made out to be Teflon and that it was armor piercing.

Now the fail safe did have a steel sleeve in the rear half between the lead and the jacket. Made them tough as hell and non deforming in the rear half.

No tungsten tho!

There were also those Gucci "extreme shock" rounds advertised in the back of every gun and hunting magazine for a while in the early 2000s u believe. Sintered tungsten metal compressed into a core. Was supposed to be the deadliest bullet on earth. Was mostly a gimmick with inconsistent behaviour
If I recall.

 

[Horse1]

Winchester failsafes (rifle) with that oh so sexy black lubalox (just copper oxide) coating. It's not teflon. It was made out to be Teflon and that it was armor piercing.

Now the fail safe did have a steel sleeve in the rear half between the lead and the jacket. Made them tough as hell and non deforming in the rear half.

Failsafe in the rifle, not Black Talon. I must be short of caffeine today, or the rusty mental rolodex needs a little WD-40. I knew there was a steel sleeve, I thought I remembered the core was Tungsten but I could certainly be wrong.

 

[Calvin45]

Failsafe in the rifle, not Black Talon. I must be short of caffeine today, or the rusty mental rolodex needs a little WD-40. I knew there was a steel sleeve, I thought I remembered the core was Tungsten but I could certainly be wrong.

No no you're right about the name! I've seen vintage "black talon" 300 win mag ammo - it's just re-branded failsafes with that coating on them!

Now i gotta do a little digging and see about this tungsten core…I coulda swore it was lead haha