6mm Arc for deer
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wilkup
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Hell yea! I love it. I hunt the Teannaway.
That's one reason I like my AR Grendel when running thermal for depredation. The ability to stay on target and the video quality is great. The rifle barely moves at the shot. That also helps when shooting multiple animals in quick succession which is very common in depredation situations. I don't have trouble with that with the AR 10 in 6.5 CM with 123 eldm's either. But I can tell when I go to the AR 10 in 308 with 168s. I have to lock in a bit tighter and you still get more movement. A brake would help with that but I despise them. Don't care much for suppressor's either. I know my brother was pleasantly surprised by the lack of the ARCs recoil. He said it was less than his similarly equipped 20" Grendel.
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CoyoteConquest
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Can you site where the ARC was designed to increase the killing range of the m16/A4? I know Hornady vaguely said something about a contract but no one has ever verified it. I think it was just something already out there that they thought they can make a dime off of just like all the other cartridges they came out with. Otherwise we can say the same thing about any other AR caliber.
BALLISTICJESUS
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It's basically a .243 LBC (6mm Grendel). The base to shoulder is shorter on the ARC as compared to the Grendel case. I shot deer with the .243 LBC and 90gr Accubond's back in 2015.
sdakotaguy
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If a certain branch of the DOD had asked for a round & chambering, to increase the effective range of the M16. What publication routs do you think they would use to make this knowledge available to friend & foe? Is there a chance that they would prefer to minimize how much is being shared with those who will be trying to defeat them in the future?
BALLISTICJESUS
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Just go to the Hornady Channel on YouTube. They explain it all. The military came to them. They developed the cartridge as to the military's needs. The key here being Hornady SAMMI'd the cartridge then released it to the public.
Sdvldog1371
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Just toss it in the old Googler. When the DOD asks the firearms industry for a new weapon or round it is generally published. The government is relatively decent at letting you know they're wasting our money on stuff. For instance, the contract the 6mm ARC was designed for was the last weapons contract. Hornady along with Barret designed the round. Their strategy was taking the pre-existing m4 and m16 and up-fitting it to save time and money. The problem was that the 6mm Arc didn't meet the energy requirements for the medium machine gun.
Sig won the contract because of the .277 sig fury high pressure hybrid cased round. AND because of sweetheart contracts, over the pants hand stuff and underbidding the competition.
Sdvldog1371
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So, what are the hunting regulations up north? Even though many a pronghorn has met its end by way of a 22-250... it was, until a few years ago, unlawful to shoot any big game animal with a .22 caliber or smaller rifle. Now they split it up, .24 and up for elk and .22 minimum for deer. We are also limited to 5 rounds capacity. So, no magazines with greater than 5 round capacity, to include magazines that can be modified to hold more. Meaning, we can just put a different follower or block in the magazine, it has to be a either designed to be 5 rounds or made into a permanent situation. I've seen some states don't do this nonsense. Is Washington one of them?
Dandy Buck by the way!
BALLISTICJESUS
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6mm or larger bullet diameter and no restrictions on magazine capacity for big game hunting.
Sdvldog1371
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With how much more anti-gun legislation Washington has passed, I would think Oregon would have fewer restrictions. It's not like we have a whole lot of shot opportunities though.
Sig tends to get a lot of contracts that way with an inferior product in some cases. I'm not a fan.
