Topgun 30-06
Well-Known Member
Been hunting myself for almost 60 years and can't argue much with what you've said, but I've never used anything smaller than a .243 for deer and some say that's too small. Proper bullet placement with a caliber big enough to impart a decent amount of ft/lbs of energy into the vitals is what's needed for a humane kill. The old school says that's 1000 on deer and 1500 on elk at POI, far more than a .223 imparts at any real hunting distance.