New Bill Criminalizing Private Gun Sales

[Orange Dust]

Done. I am now a life member of GOA. Paying over time

Mud, We done good. Got one today. So proud of you hunter67wa. Thank You! Love folks who put their money where their mouth is. Now there at least three of us on this site. How many members? Roll up your sleeves boys, we got work to do.

 

[Orange Dust]

Done. I am now a life member of GOA. Paying over time

You will love the prewritten letters to everyone in Washington. All you have to do is one click and they go. Very Proactive, and they are required to respond. I have sent so many one of my Senators sent a personal email about my "Activism". You would have loved my reply...

 

[Hatrick]

Been that way in NY for several years unfortunately...

I wish Upstate NY could secede from the city/long island... the political leanings and culture are so much different... I love the mountains and weather of upstate NY but I hate the taxes/politics/restrictive laws I have to deal with that all started in the city.

I wish North Jersey would seceed to New York!

 

[hunter67wa]

I have always sent letters to my reps and sen.

 

[MtPockets]

They have just completed a voter poll in Texas. 100,000 Illegals registered to vote in Texas and 60k voted. Inquiring minds want to know what they are going to do about it. I suspect nothing... Felony with 20yr prison. Oh, I forgot, laws are only for the taxpaying, conservative, citizens. Illegals, Democrats, and government officials are exempt. My Bad, Sorry.

And just think- this happened in a state that is not a sanctuary state. How many do you suppose voted in Cali or Oregon?

I was disappointed that Trump didn't hold up the example of that green card holder in Dallas who got caught voting illegally.
In her testimony, she admitted to previously having checked the "I am a legal citizen" box on the voter registration card. THAT is all it took for her to illegally vote!

When my son was in the Marines in Cali, he said that they hand you a voter registration card when you go to get your drivers license. Doesn't California give illegals a drivers license?

I think Trump needs to worry more about taking away illegals' ill gotten voting privileges and taking away Federal funding to sanctuary cities/states than building a wall.

 

[MudRunner2005]

And just think- this happened in a state that is not a sanctuary state. How many do you suppose voted in Cali or Oregon?

I was disappointed that Trump didn't hold up the example of that green card holder in Dallas who got caught voting illegally.
In her testimony, she admitted to previously having checked the "I am a legal citizen" box on the voter registration card. THAT is all it took for her to illegally vote!

When my son was in the Marines in Cali, he said that they hand you a voter registration card when you go to get your drivers license. Doesn't California give illegals a drivers license?

I think Trump needs to worry more about taking away illegals' ill gotten voting privileges and taking away Federal funding to sanctuary cities/states than building a wall.

We need all of the above... Voter ID laws, no more sanctuary cities, and the wall!

 

[MtPockets]

We need all of the above... Voter ID laws, no more sanctuary cities, and the wall!

Sorry, Mud, but I'm not a fan of building the wall. I feel that if we take away illegals' reasons for being here- free money, college tuition, etc, and punish those who HIRE illegals, we have no need for an expensive wall.

We spent how many years trying (and finally succeeding) to bring down the Berlin Wall and the like, I don't want us to be thrown into the same class as those countries.

I also believe that the wall is more of an ego thing for Trump, than an actual deterrent. It's an ego boost that the entire country will be paying for for generations.

 

[MudRunner2005]

Sorry, Mud, but I'm not a fan of building the wall. I feel that if we take away illegals' reasons for being here- free money, college tuition, etc, and punish those who HIRE illegals, we have no need for an expensive wall.

We spent how many years trying (and finally succeeding) to bring down the Berlin Wall and the like, I don't want us to be thrown into the same class as those countries.

I also believe that the wall is more of an ego thing for Trump, than an actual deterrent. It's an ego boost that the entire country will be paying for for generations.

Ummm, why do we not need the wall? Don't our borders need to be protected from someone just being able to waltz across it with drugs and trafficking humans, etc...???

I agree 100% that we need to cut off ALL funding for that crap, as well. But even with all the freebies gone, they will still flock to America... Have you ever been to a bad part of Mexico? I have... I've been to Juarez... You want to talk about a sketchy place, especially being a gringo there... Any sh!thole town in America, is better than a sh!thole town in Mexico where people get killed and literally thrown to the local dogs and wildlife for dinner.

Also, if walls don't work, then why do people have walls around their houses and fences around their property? Why does the Vatican have 50' walls around it? Why does Canada have a wall? Why did China build a Great Wall? Why did Berlin build a wall?

We're $22 TRILLION dollars in debt of made up money that has zero gold standard backing it up... Technically we're all playing with monopoly money at this point. When you look at it, $5.7 Billion is a drop in the bucket...

 

[MtPockets]

Our borders were just fine for 200+ years until we started giving away free sh!t that we had to borrow money to buy.
If we cut off the free stuff, quit giving them everything they could ask for (and more), and arrest/penalize those who illegally EMPLOY illegals the flow of illegal immigration would reduce to a trickle without the need for an expensive to build, expensive to watch, and expensive to maintain ego boost for Trump.
Do you really think that $5.7 Billion is the total cost of the wall? Does that include the Border Patrol to keep an eye on it and the maintenance it will take to keep it going for an eternity?

How does one expect to reduce the $22 Trillion deficit by spending several billion on a wall that will only continue to need funding?

 

[Riflehunter1776]

Our borders were just fine for 200+ years until we started giving away free sh!t that we had to borrow money to buy.
If we cut off the free stuff, quit giving them everything they could ask for (and more), and arrest/penalize those who illegally EMPLOY illegals the flow of illegal immigration would reduce to a trickle without the need for an expensive to build, expensive to watch, and expensive to maintain ego boost for Trump.
Do you really think that $5.7 Billion is the total cost of the wall? Does that include the Border Patrol to keep an eye on it and the maintenance it will take to keep it going for an eternity?

How does one expect to reduce the $22 Trillion deficit by spending several billion on a wall that will only continue to need funding?

The free stuff will never stop because it buys votes.

And since Americans will no longer actively repel invaders, a passive wall becomes the next best option for our cowed, neutered population to hide behind. But it's still better than the international socialist alternative of a world without borders where all the "downtrodden" invaders and millennial mooches unite against America in a race to foolishly squander the wealth that they did not earn themselves, and disparage freedom because they like utopian slavery better. But no, the sentiment in the past was far different from today. 100 years ago, the US would go all "Blackjack Pershing" on someone's butt if they crossed the border and started anything. Now our own treasonous left glorifies the angry, USA-hating invaders as heroes and vilifies our national sovereignty as evil.
Sometime during the last few generations, as public education devolved into public indoctrination, common sense (never a Marxist strong point) became a casualty of the culture war.

1916

today

 

[jbs2014]

Ummm, why do we not need the wall? Don't our borders need to be protected from someone just being able to waltz across it with drugs and trafficking humans, etc...???

I agree 100% that we need to cut off ALL funding for that crap, as well. But even with all the freebies gone, they will still flock to America... Have you ever been to a bad part of Mexico? I have... I've been to Juarez... You want to talk about a sketchy place, especially being a gringo there... Any sh!thole town in America, is better than a sh!thole town in Mexico where people get killed and literally thrown to the local dogs and wildlife for dinner.

Also, if walls don't work, then why do people have walls around their houses and fences around their property? Why does the Vatican have 50' walls around it? Why does Canada have a wall? Why did China build a Great Wall? Why did Berlin build a wall?

We're $22 TRILLION dollars in debt of made up money that has zero gold standard backing it up... Technically we're all playing with monopoly money at this point. When you look at it, $5.7 Billion is a drop in the bucket...

I would prefer a minefield over a wall any day. Cheaper, and has much better deterring effects. Maybe we could use "the common good" to justify one

 

[MudRunner2005]

I would prefer a minefield over a wall any day. Cheaper, and has much better deterring effects. Maybe if we could use "the common good" to justify one

Yep. C4 proximities and Bouncing Betty's buried in a nice 50' wide sand field all the way down, with CROW turret .50's watching from our side of the wall...

We could really cut down on needed border security costs...

We could call it "Catch & Release". Because when they get caught with a proximity trigger, it releases.

 

[MtPockets]

Maybe you guys are onto something!
Could we invite some of our favorite politicians for a first hand look?!

 

[dfanonymous]

Our borders were just fine for 200+ years until we started giving away free sh!t that we had to borrow money to buy.
If we cut off the free stuff, quit giving them everything they could ask for (and more), and arrest/penalize those who illegally EMPLOY illegals the flow of illegal immigration would reduce to a trickle without the need for an expensive to build, expensive to watch, and expensive to maintain ego boost for Trump.
Do you really think that $5.7 Billion is the total cost of the wall? Does that include the Border Patrol to keep an eye on it and the maintenance it will take to keep it going for an eternity?

How does one expect to reduce the $22 Trillion deficit by spending several billion on a wall that will only continue to need funding?

I don't care about a wall one way or another. A wall or no wall matters not to me. However 50 billion might seem like a tremendous amount to the working man, but it's like $50 compared to the entire government budget. If it's not irresponsibly used one way, rest assure that it will be used in some other ignorant way. Point being, I don't understand how the cost of the wall is a valid argument for any one side.
As everyone knows when the gov issues a budget, all the little organizations wait patiently with that hand out ready to receive. In 2015 around 3.3 trillion had been reported as collected by the IRS. Meanwhile the FBI has a a unit that takes a fraction of the FBI budget specficly 1.5 million to fund a Investigative Publicity and Public Affairs Unit to assist movie writers on getting realistic "how it works" information for their movies. Billions ain't **** to the government. Wanna hear about waste, fraud and abuse in the DOD? Or how much the Air Force spent building some stuff constructing a building in Afghanistan for their "new" corrupt government?