New 7mm cartridge from Federal

[liber]

Midway has the ammo listed at around $65. The ability reload the cases is going to be the deal for me.

Me too. I haven't shot anything other than my loads for the past 11+ years. In 2014 Sunnyvale, CA started the first ammo registration in Caliornia. Prior to that, I used to frequent U.S. Firearms, the guy was a great guy and he'd test fire my guns for me in the back room. When the ammo reg hit, he decided to move back to San Diego where he was from...

I live over by Cupertino, and there was a gunstore there named Kerley's, and it's right around the corner from Apple, so you can imagine the wokeness that closed in on him, and he's now in the U.S. Firearms building in Sunnyvale.

But I wanted to explain that because everyone is not woke here, despite what people think. Open Source software is based around freedom and I worked at a place called VA Linux Systems, they were the last IPO in 1999, and it was only about 6 months later that the dot-bomb hit. One of the board members wrote a famous book called the Cathedral and the Bizarre, his name is Eric Raymond. When he would fly into town for the board meetings we would have a range day and go to Milpitas range, and VA paid for us to rent any pistol we wanted and we could shoot unlimited amount ammo. A few would take their own handguns, and Eric would be his 45ACP on the plane. I also like the 1911, it just feels right to me. The cool thing about this was we'd setup the line with all types of handguns and you could try all of them, revolvers, semi-autos, specific brands, I used to rent a Walther PPK 380, my step dad had one of those, that's what I would want to CCW if I was to. I wish there was a place to try rifles like that...

When we would go back to VA, Eric would hang all of the targets around the CEO's desk and I said everyone wasn't woke, but everyone wasn't right either...and people would complain how obnoxious it was to see silhouettes of humans with massive holes all over.

I've taken a lot of heat over the years...the majority of the workplace in Silicon Valley is anti-2A. I have other funny stories, but I digress...

But it is true that I only shoot my loads, and I'm sure others do as well. Mine stems from this f#@$'d up state and Newsom/Hairy@$$ that imposed much of it on us, but it really stems back to FeinFrankenStein...I digress...

We're gonna get our right back here, but I will forever reload, and will only use cartridges that I can reload and get components for. Components don't get tracked in CA, so you can buy/sell privately and over the counter. Other than that, we can't get powder or primers unless you hazmat it in. I haven't hazmat'd for years. But you can buy primers and powder over the counter if you can find it...same problem with 277 Fury or 7BC, if you can find it...

I apologize for the long post, bedtime for bonzo...

 

[WYO300RUM]

He's good people, kinda. He is one hell of a cook and makes some stupid crazy good salsa. ;-)

Your invited of course. That's a given

 

[slick Nick]

It's good to use data for a standard instead of how much they are donated (payed) to come up with results.
Thanks for this!

 

[fseaman.js]

I don't see much hate. I do see plenty of sarcasm. Why would that be?

Sarcasm based on skepticism because "we" have been promised so many things that never materialized.

Marketing department's job is to create desire driven sales. No morals, if the product actually does not live up to promises, meh. No liability if it is down right dangerous. Not saying the new 7mmBC is going to be any of those things.

Federal is guilty of not living up to promises before. Foreign ownership is another red flag against taking everything in marketing materials as gospel rather than with a pound of salt.

So, big claims get big skepticism and that begets sarcasm and being the receiver of jokes.

Replying to myself because...

After Shot Show, some things have been addressed. Still no dies or load data but that will probably show up at the same time factory ammo shows up.

 

[liber]

Replying to myself because...

After Shot Show, some things have been addressed. Still no dies or load data but that will probably show up at the same time factory ammo shows up.

I don't see how people can flock to it without the ability to reload. I'm not trying to hate it, either, I'm willing to jump on the bandwagon when the time is right.

It's good to use data for a standard instead of how much they are donated (payed) to come up with results.
Thanks for this!

The numbers would suggest that it's not a bad start, but with as big of a splash for Shot Show this year and where it's at, the R&D need to catch up with the marketing. It's rare to see as big of a marketing push from Federal, IMO, so where will that leave them if they don't have enough follow up interest? Meanwhile, the PRCs are being used and most likely that trend will continue, as all of them can be reloaded for today.

 

[HandgunHTR]

I don't see how people can flock to it without the ability to reload. I'm not trying to hate it, either, I'm willing to jump on the bandwagon when the time is right.



The numbers would suggest that it's not a bad start, but with as big of a splash for Shot Show this year and where it's at, the R&D need to catch up with the marketing. It's rare to see as big of a marketing push from Federal, IMO, so where will that leave them if they don't have enough follow up interest? Meanwhile, the PRCs are being used and most likely that trend will continue, as all of them can be reloaded for today.

There are quite a few people out there who don't reload, so not having the ability to do so isn't that big of a deal to them. They just want to have the "latest and greatest" so they can brag at the range and to their hunting buddies. Based on what I am reading, however, I would expect to see a lot of these end up in the Classifieds and on Gun Broker in about 6-8 months.

As for having the ability to reload, I know enough about metal properties to know that there is no alloy that is predominately steel that will allow for annealing, which means even if they do find a way to resize them, these are going to probably be limited to 2-5 reloads before necks start splitting. That is completely ignoring the fact that RCBS still hasn't been able to adequately resize the case without double digit passes through the dies.