National Graphics special on wolves played several nights ago

Wow. Be gone 24 hours, and this rooster guy happens. mtmuley

Rooster740 has more generations of elk knowledge than most in Mt have in their pinkey. He's no BS living in the middle of the worst spot to try to make living on the land now. I take his opinion above my own and I only live a couple hours away!
What he says is no BS cut and dried!!
 
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Rooster740 has more generations of elk knowledge than most in Mt have in their pinkey. He's no BS living in the middle of the worst spot to try to make living on the land now. I take his opinion above my own and I only live a couple hours away!
Golly. I'll keep that in mind. What's elk knowledge have to do with wolves? mtmuley
 
He's lived with them from day one and right in the middle of one of the worst messes there is. If any one on this forum knows what he's talking about it's him!
Yeah, I read it all. I have my own opinion about it. Interesting though. mtmuley
 
Opinions are good fun till your the one stuck with the reality of this mess!!
Plenty of wolves where I am greeny. It's funny though. I still manage to punch a bull tag pretty much every year. As far as rooster, he posts a lot of "Facts". I want to see proof of his "Facts". Don't be posting facts that you can't back up. mtmuley
 
What really sucks is that other hunters are going to be lumped into this demographic...

Folks who are anti hunting will snatch this up and spread it like it's the opinion of all hunters. Bummer.
I do not call this hunting I call it animal control. Come down to Mississippi and look at what the hogs have done.
 
I've seen what they have done in Texas, but not Mississipi. My experience with wolves comes from having hunted the Northern Yellowstone elk herd from the mid 90s until now. When the wolves were reintroduced it was all doom and gloom and much of the same rhetoric I see here. The reality I have seen is that the elk herd actually got bigger, albeit more dispersed. The wolves certainly didn't eat every elk in the countryside. They do kill them, and they definitely disperse them. But it's not like I have not seen any elk. I actually see elk in more places than I used to, especially more on public land...go figure. While a lot of folks argue the wolves that were reintroduced were a different species, they are still wolves and were here way before we were. The trick is finding the balance that we fit into in the whole thing. Machine gunning them out of a chopper hardly qualifies as a viable solution and just gives idiot anti hunters more fuel for their fires...
 
Wow. Be gone 24 hours, and this rooster guy happens. mtmuley
What exactly are you saying. This forum used to be a valuable asset for great information by people that got out and got it done, then shared what they knew and learned. I guess I should know better then share facts with this forum about Yellowstone wolves and hunting them. If you guys are fine with extreme hunter harassment and no game animals left. Which is exactly what this thread is about, then so be it. I have taken vacations from this forum before for trying to add constructive info, and hurting peoples tender feelers. Gone are the guys with great info, sadly I keep coming back remembering that. Peace out, I took a digger and filled my rifle with snow trying to kill a Yellowstone wolf, and have a cleaning drying job to do. Happy new year and keep after the mutts!
 
I will add that I do feel for the folks that have to live with the wolves directly on the park border, that is probably frustrating to say the least. Those wolves can and do wander in and out of the park where they can't be hunted or managed, so there is likely an imbalance. Where I'm at it's basically a free for all and for all intents and purposes a very long season with very liberal bag limits.
 
I do not call this hunting I call it animal control. Come down to Mississippi and look at what the hogs have done.

Wolves in Wyoming – The Real Gunsmith - YouTube
The wolves breed faster than the elk= more wolves need to eat.
Just like the hogs in Mississippi. A lot of western states are losing elk do to wolves, also a lot to the winter kill.
I'm basing my experience off twenty plus years hunting the same general elk herd. Not YouTube. I'm not saying don't hunt wolves, by all means hunt away. I'm just saying advocating shooting them out of helos paints a bad picture.
 
Wolves- and the same for grizzlies -had their place on this continent at one time. Do they now? I think that needs to be the question in relation to what the real goal of reestablishment is, and what is the goal of reestablishment? We replaced the two former apex predators of the region. So do they have a place? Do they have the space?

It's very arrogant of man for us to think we can manage this planet. Regardless of your ideology we are but a blip on the radar. It's estimated 95+% of the species that have ever existed on this planet are gone forever. So how do we know how things should really be, or if we are even doing things correctly? That applies to all modes and mediums of environmental management.
 
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