My long winded thoughts on annealing

[Jeff Heeg osoh]

The great part about today is you have multiple options as to how to anneal.

I still use a two torch Bench Source system and haven't seen the need to change the system be it 260, 6.5x47 two the larger 338LM & 416 Warner stuff. After while the setup is fast and efficient.

Why anneal
Saves brass from the necks cracking due to hardness
Consistency in seating pressure - increases accuracy
Consistency in release as pressure builds - increases accuracy
Saves brass thus saves a ton of money.

I had a bunch of folks on FB feed me to the wolves because I am in the 16 reload area on some of my 260 brass and finally having to weed out some brass because of signs the brass is finally giving up at the case head area. I was pretty much called a dumb *** for using brass past 4 or 5 or 6 rounds. I seen people reference that range here as being a goal. But with annealing, great brass to start with and good resizing practices you can get a lot of life.

People grumble about the price of Lapua Brass being 2-3 times the cost of others, but when getting the brass life I have and its accuracy its a financial win win situation.
You still have to know how to set it back - sizing but at the end of the day Annealing pays off big time to extend brass life and accuracy.

Just my opinion, there's probably many here more experienced that have pushed the limits in distance and reloading beyond what I have. It seemed like a dog fight here some with everyone actually having good reasoning behind their beliefs in which all pointed in the same direction at the end.

Cheers
osoh

 

[Jeff Heeg osoh]

The great part about today is you have multiple options as to how to anneal.

I still use a two torch Bench Source system and haven't seen the need to change the system be it 260, 6.5x47 two the larger 338LM & 416 Warner stuff. After while the setup is fast and efficient.

Why anneal
Saves brass from the necks cracking due to hardness
Consistency in seating pressure - increases accuracy
Consistency in release as pressure builds - increases accuracy
Saves brass thus saves a ton of money on brass replacement and the investment in load development and time.

I had a bunch of folks on FB feed me to the wolves because I am in the 16 reload area on some of my 260 brass and finally having to weed out some brass because of signs the brass is finally giving up at the case head area. I was pretty much called a dumb *** for using brass past 4 or 5 or 6 rounds. I seen people reference that range here as being a goal. But with annealing, great brass to start with and good resizing practices you can get a lot of life.

People grumble about the price of Lapua Brass being 2-3 times the cost of others, but when getting the brass life I have and its accuracy its a financial win win situation.
You still have to know how to set it back - sizing but at the end of the day Annealing pays off big time to extend brass life and accurac.

Just my opinion, there's probably many here more experienced that have pushed the limits in distance and reloading beyond what I have. It seemed like a dog fight here some with everyone actually having good reasoning behind their beliefs in which all pointed in the same direction at the end.

Cheers
osoh

 

[Petey308]

LOL! Synthesization of information can be challenging at times. Oftentimes, it is miscontrued. You already know where I stand.

Just a friendly reminder, the whiskey, beer, and wine thread is a lot more friendly and non-destructive. Cheers!

Ed

Touché lol. Maybe I'll just stick to those threads

 

[Petey308]

Twisting words as if I said them....that BS.



Maybe.....nor do I........I'm not here to argue, but I do enjoy discussing the nuances of long range hunting/shooting!!



Absolutely!!....this we agree on!!

Didn't mean to twist any words. My sincere apologies for apparently taking your comment wrong. I'm just here to learn, discuss, and help if I can too .

 

[sp6x6]

Somebody on here has taken brass way past 20 reloads.I take my 338NM norma brass to ten and have had none show signs? Maybe im cheating myself,hah.Just got 50 Lapua for the 338nm at ten I feel i got my value. Some one think on another resent post had the homemade induction,lloked simple and easy to set up a hand held type unit.Suprize not see it here

 

[asd9055]

Somebody on here has taken brass way past 20 reloads.I take my 338NM norma brass to ten and have had none show signs? Maybe im cheating myself,hah.Just got 50 Lapua for the 338nm at ten I feel i got my value. Some one think on another resent post had the homemade induction,lloked simple and easy to set up a hand held type unit.Suprize not see it here

One another forum someone made a real nice one for under $200. Not a handheld. And posted the directions and parts list! I have it on my computer! Might build one with options to automate

 

[Petey308]

One another forum someone made a real nice one for under $200. Not a handheld. And posted the directions and parts list! I have it on my computer! Might build one with options to automate

I've seeen them built, and was going to build one myself just for the experience, but ended up getting a Fluxeon Annie. It works excellently. I have, however, helped a buddy build one.

I will also fully disclose, which I have before, my main reason for upgrading from they to the AMP is for my business. Whether people believe it's worthwhile to them or not, actually makes a difference or not, etc, they at least like the idea of having brass they're paying to be processed annealed with an AMP. I like it too for my own ammo as well. My Annie still sits at the ready on my bench though. I still recommend building a GinaErick though too for anyone wanting to get into induction and likes to DIY and wants to save some money. I love to tinker and DIY, but I find I seriously lack the time anymore.

 

[jthor93]

The great part about today is you have multiple options as to how to anneal.

I still use a two torch Bench Source system and haven't seen the need to change the system be it 260, 6.5x47 two the larger 338LM & 416 Warner stuff. After while the setup is fast and efficient.

Why anneal
Saves brass from the necks cracking due to hardness
Consistency in seating pressure - increases accuracy
Consistency in release as pressure builds - increases accuracy
Saves brass thus saves a ton of money.

Add annealing helps with consistent shoulder bumps as well.

 

[jthor93]

If all you have available is a drill socket and torch, by means go ahead and do it. However, one is lying to them self if they truly believe it is as good, good as in consistent, as using a Bench Source, Annealeeze, and any other flame annealer that rotates the case.

 

[Jeff Heeg osoh]

But honestly if thats all that's available it's better than doing nothing at all

osoh

 

[epoletna]

Welcome to Long Range Hunting, jthor93! You'll find lots of good discussions here.

 

[ButterBean]

If all you have available is a drill socket and torch, by means go ahead and do it. However, one is lying to them self if they truly believe it is as good, good as in consistent, as using a Bench Source, Annealeeze, and any other flame annealer that rotates the case.

That's your opinion and you are entitled to it but that's all it is

 

[jthor93]

That's your opinion and you are entitled to it but that's all it is

It's not opinion, but fact. Are you holding the brass in the same exact spot every time? You're not. are you taking the brass out of the flame at the exact same time every time? Again, you're not. Annealers like the Bench Source and Annealeeze do just that.

 

[asd9055]

It's not opinion, but fact. Are you holding the brass in the same exact spot every time? You're not. are you taking the brass out of the flame at the exact same time every time? Again, you're not. Annealers like the Bench Source and Annealeeze do just that.

To become a fact, you'd have to take the several sets of brass and do a metallurgical analyses and engineering testing. Until then it is an opinion. And now it is time to stop following this thread! It is no longer educational!
Thank you. You all have a good evening