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Joel was one of 2 founders of CC he left this spring and has since started Terminus. He is active on this forum, one of the first posters on this thread.
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Joel was one of 2 founders of CC he left this spring and has since started Terminus. He is active on this forum, one of the first posters on this thread.
SteelBanger
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Right on, I'll give Joel a call this week and see what the Zeus is all about. Thank you again for the feedback.
Looking forward to getting this build underway!
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nope, lots of claims of issues feeding especially when rested on the mag but I tried that too and never had issues. Mine did well.
Awesome! I am looking at virtually the same setup with Manners EH-1A and MCS Gen 1 with Vector action. I already ordered some of the Curtis AW mags but wanted to run the Accurate mags if possible.
ramrod79
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That's a very nice looking rig I bet it will shoot bug holes.
browning442
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I have experienced feeding issues with the manners mini chassis and the AICS mags with upward pressure. The AW mags didn't work perfect either but have modified the mag catch and feed lips so they work now.
Did not have any issues with Hawkins M5 bottom metal in a manners stock and my first gen. EDIT - Zeus does not have any feeding issues with M5, whereas the Vector in the mini chassis took some tweaking. I am sure either will work better with M5 than the mini chassis, in my limited experience.
Did not have any issues with Hawkins M5 bottom metal in a manners stock and my first gen. EDIT - Zeus does not have any feeding issues with M5, whereas the Vector in the mini chassis took some tweaking. I am sure either will work better with M5 than the mini chassis, in my limited experience.
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Joel Russo
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With all due respect sir, the Terminus Zeus is not a rebranded anything!
browning442
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Joel Russo
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People spewing misinformation seems to be a common thing.
Glad you're happy with your action.
Glad you're happy with your action.
It always will be a common thing. I have no experience with your products, yet. Hopefully that will change in the near future.
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For clarity from Joel on Snipershide
"I'll be happy to answer the "elephant in the room question " what's the difference?
First off, I own the print to the Vector. And since I own it, I decided to run a small batch of the original design, and change nothing other than the name to Zeus.. While that was in process, I was spending time redesigning the other prints. I changed the Apollo, Apollo Lite/Ti, and the Helios to a .725" bolt. This eliminated the issue with the cocking piece receiver interface most common on the naked 416 ss actions, gave more lug surface area, and eliminated the mag hitting the bolt body due to the large .750" od bolt. I redesigned the cocking piece so the bolt lift is smoother, and the cocking piece does not wear away the receiver while cocking the action. I changed some geometry on the lugs themselves. I also added threaded trigger pins, so no more using a hammer and punch to switch triggers with a $4k optic mounted on the action.
I am in the process adding these changes to the Zeus. I have a small batch of the original design Zeus in stock and availability for immediate delivery while I wait on the updated inventory. The updated Zeus should be available in a few weeks.
The tennon is exactly the same as the Vector.
I believe in complete transparency and I am always available to talk to should you have any additional questions. Feel free to call the number on the website. I pride myself on my customer service." (Russo, 2019)
"I'll be happy to answer the "elephant in the room question " what's the difference?
First off, I own the print to the Vector. And since I own it, I decided to run a small batch of the original design, and change nothing other than the name to Zeus.. While that was in process, I was spending time redesigning the other prints. I changed the Apollo, Apollo Lite/Ti, and the Helios to a .725" bolt. This eliminated the issue with the cocking piece receiver interface most common on the naked 416 ss actions, gave more lug surface area, and eliminated the mag hitting the bolt body due to the large .750" od bolt. I redesigned the cocking piece so the bolt lift is smoother, and the cocking piece does not wear away the receiver while cocking the action. I changed some geometry on the lugs themselves. I also added threaded trigger pins, so no more using a hammer and punch to switch triggers with a $4k optic mounted on the action.
I am in the process adding these changes to the Zeus. I have a small batch of the original design Zeus in stock and availability for immediate delivery while I wait on the updated inventory. The updated Zeus should be available in a few weeks.
The tennon is exactly the same as the Vector.
I believe in complete transparency and I am always available to talk to should you have any additional questions. Feel free to call the number on the website. I pride myself on my customer service." (Russo, 2019)
browning442
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@jmcmath thank you for clarification!
My Zeus is a first run action from Terminus and has many similarities to a vector. I'll just leave it at that. I understand there were various improvements to the progression of the Zeus action.
The point of my earlier comments was to relay what I'm seeing in terms of bottom metals and differences between the two.
From my experience, Hawkins M5 is working better than the manners mini chassis for mag fit and feeding. Others experiences may be different.
My Zeus is a first run action from Terminus and has many similarities to a vector. I'll just leave it at that. I understand there were various improvements to the progression of the Zeus action.
The point of my earlier comments was to relay what I'm seeing in terms of bottom metals and differences between the two.
From my experience, Hawkins M5 is working better than the manners mini chassis for mag fit and feeding. Others experiences may be different.
Joel Russo
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Understood browning442.
most have had the same experience with the Manners mini chassis.
most have had the same experience with the Manners mini chassis.
