If the 6mm Creed only "nearly equals" the 6mm Remington, what's the point??? For larger game, shot selection will be critical with these somewhat underpowered cartridges. If you're paper-punching and you have to have something new, go for it. Otherwise, the old .243 Win will do the job nicely and the .30-06 can do anything one wants. A milder big game cartridge like the 7mm-08 fills in nicely if you want a short action with milder recoil. But it's your money!!!!
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chickm1
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What is the intelligence of developing the 6mm CM, when you have the 6mm Rem?
The questions becomes purpose/overlap and $$. If you don't care about any of those, get one of each. If $$ is an issue, get the one that fits most of your needs and invest fully in that platform with time and the $$ you have. I'd like to get a 6CM but I don't do matches, so the 6.5CM covers all I need. If I had endless funds and time, I'd get one, but I have less time than $$ anymore, and a new caliber requires dies/brass and load development (time), something I don't want to deal with for the minimal differences over the 6.5. While I do enjoy development, the time just isn't there. So it's all a matter of what works for you and your availability and needs. Best of luck!
Will D
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It's taken some time, but I finally have my 243 Ackley Improved shooting well. Load development was difficult due to lack of data. The best advice I received was to begin with 243 Winchester max loads and work up. The result was 3,370 fps with standard deviation of 5.19 with a Sierra 85 gr HPBT behind 46.5 gr IMR 4350. There should be a great deal more data available for the 6mm Creedmore so the laborious work I expended on my project can be avoided.
chickm1
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Personally, I'm sick of hearing about this CM BS. The 7mm08, is a more versatile and just as accurate as the 6.5 CM, and why even develope a 6mm CM cartridge that is slightly smaller than the tried and proven 6mm Rem. Plus, the
260 Rem is out there.
Creedmoor shooter
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Try to stuff a high bc 6mm bullet into a 6mm rem case and try to fit it in a short action. You'll have your answer. That bullet will be intruding on powder capacity where the 6mm creed will not and it will utilize all that powder space. I've loaded for 6mm rem in a Remington 700SA. Even with regular 100 grain soft point you really have to seat that bullet deep to make it fit in the magazine.
MPNCC
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I'm on the collect the whole set on creedmoor chamberings. I have two 6.5s, one 6cm and one 22cm. Love how they all shoot. Overlap yes, specific application for each yes, necessary, no. Quarter bore coming soon...
Probably
Probably
ntsqd
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I'm holding out for the 7mm CM. I think it's gonna shoot circles around everything else, i.e. little, itty-bitty bugholes. The 7.62 CM should be almost as good but with heavier bullets available, but I don't expect much from the .338 CM, .35 CM, & .375 CM's.
-- That's sarcasm BTW.
Built a 6.5 CM, have yet to shoot it.
-- That's sarcasm BTW.
Built a 6.5 CM, have yet to shoot it.
The point is that Hornady can make more money off of the Creedmoor platform. The 6.5 creed doesn't outperform anything by enough to make a difference and neither does the 6. But, hornady has used their influence to get manufacturers to use a correct twist. Which gives them an advantage over the 243 and 6 rem.
Don't look to the big names to be innovative. Look to them to make money makers.
I bought a Kimber Adv Tac SOC IN 6.5CM and loved it. Then later saw a new Ruger Precision in 6CM too cheap to pass up. The cheap Ruger shoots the Hornady factory match ammo almost as tight as my best handloads for the 6.5. It is easy to load for too, ELDs, Bergers, Sierra, it shoots them all. In my limited experience with the two cartridges, the 6CM is my favorite. The 6.5 Kimber will shoot tiny groups too, it just took longer to get there and a lot more load development.
Josebigsky
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I don't know about the 6mm Creed, wondering though why not go with the 6mm that's been around forever, the .243?
This is a real question. Why would the 6mm Creed be better than the .243? Ammo is easily found in most places. Loads are well known and published. Brass is abundant. It is extremely accurate. Thoughts?
This is a real question. Why would the 6mm Creed be better than the .243? Ammo is easily found in most places. Loads are well known and published. Brass is abundant. It is extremely accurate. Thoughts?
I went to local gun range to check zero on my 6.5cr. They provide a spotter as a fund raiser service. He said something snarky about the caliber. Why not a 243 just a fad etc. I shot first shot and it was where I wanted. Second shot and he struggled to find the new hole until he figured that it was touching and half over lapping. 3rd shot was off a bit. I asked for the group size and he muttered 3/4 in. I asked is that good? He reluctantly said yes. I said that is why i own a 6.5. and this from my sub $300 TC compass that has light recoil. Weird why so many care what I or others choose to shoot. BTW I have a dozen other calibers but man this thing is easy to shoot.
