i just put a new barrel on my 257 wby mag. and put the old scope on another rifle,so now i need another scope. i don't want to send a lot of money on this scope,because i am saving up for a up coming build. i was thinking about a vortex,but now i see a sell on that 4-12x by 50mm Minox. anyone use a Minox,,how good is the glass??