This is a Long Range Hunting forum, right? I have had deer come within feet of my blind, and it had very little to do with my skill. Yet, every single long range shot takes skill. You can accidentally get close to a deer, you don't accidentally make a well placed shot at three quarters of a mile.
If you want to talk skill, I say long range shooting takes more skill then stalking. I enjoy hunting with my bow and handgun, both require stalking. I also enjoy the joy of a well placed 500m shot.
Debatable.
You will be hard pressed to obtain a 500 meter shot hunting in Michigan or Ohio (maybe in Southern Ohio in the strip mines, maybe). We have some things in the way, mainly trees or dwellings or cars on roads, it's unlike west of the muddy where wide open spaces abound, that don't happen here.
Here, it's spot and stalk and contrary to your opinion, that takes skill too. You don't need wind meters and phone apps, you need to be a skilled hunter and yes this is a long range forum but this thread is about using a straight walled pistol cartridge in a long gun, not a 3/4 mile shot.
None of my Michigan hunting rifles have more than a 9 power scope, no side parallelax either. Not needed or wanted, in fact, iron sights work well too. I own a couple 'out west' rifles too. Big caliber, big kahonna scopes but they have no place here and I enjoy hunting on my home turf just as much as going out west and something else, it's a helluva lot cheaper and the result is the same, meat in the freezer and mounts on the wall....
Rifles, in fact all firearms are tools just like a socket set or a hammer and like tools, there are various tools for various jobs. My Michigan/Ohio tools are different from my Colorado/New Mexico tools.
I'm glad both Michigan and Ohio made a regulation change because it gives us, as resident hunters, more options.
Finally, I've never hunted from a blind either here or 'there', I don't own one and I've never considered one, except maybe for waterfowl which I don't hunt but most likely will this fall at the invitation of a fellow hunter (with a borrowed shotgun) because I don't own one. I ground hunt always. Thats part of the spot and stalk regimen.
Not trying to be argumentative, just pointing out a few aspects and replying in kind to the thread
Out of curiosity, what would the recoil measure on that
Felt recoil or actual recoil? It would depend entirely on the weight of the firearm and how the stock fits your shoulder as well as the buttplate/recoil pad.
