It is hard to clear your mind and many will never grasp a hold of it but man once you do it awesome, @dougduey pestered me for 2 years to try Hammers and I just blew him off but his persistence finally got to me, It's been a game changer for meIt is soooo hard to leave standard reloading and terminal concepts at door. It took me a while and I look back at how many bullets, powder, primers and brass life I WASTED until I threw out my previous concepts to max out the Hammers. Once clicked on, I started to "see" their potential. This resulted in my .270TH build just for the 156HH. And it paid off with superb accuracy and now I need to test out on bull 2nd season CO!