the best part with the Savage is you can change the barrels yourself
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NEMTHunter
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Yes I have heard they seem to be switching to the barrel nut. a little ugly but very functional
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the hunter
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NEMTHunter
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Thats one of the nice ones. About the like the Ruger american. But the price of the wrench to use that nut is crazy! LOL
the hunter
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You can git this supercharge v10 for $10,000: but the transmission is $100,000 have a nice day.
Don A Parsons
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There is a fellow in British Columbia Canada that built a tack-driver off of a Remmy 783 chambered in 6.5 Creed.
The rifle was a ok shooter out of the box,,, at $200 Cnd funds when he found it on a bellow sale clearance.
He had a carbon fiber barrel chambered in the same cartridge,,, so he spun the threads,,, add the lock nut and turned it into a tack driver.
A bit over board one might think,,, then he plucked it into a aftermarket stock,,, added a 6x24 optic and new 2 stage trigger... Dang that thing shoots good.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/kvaw5UJM1jUvgiY88
https://photos.app.goo.gl/8XfrYGU9k9CBVrzv6
I guess most of us got schooled since those frugal actions are one tuff cooky. Who-da thunk !!!
A few other folks took this on as well with the Rugers and Savages,,, not to the extremes of the first build,,, it started to catch on,,, I think Ruger is coming out with a heavy barrel model sometime this year. $500 Cnd funds if I recall.
Good on them for building a target model for the next generation that can get into the shooting sports with out breaking the bank amount.
The rifle was a ok shooter out of the box,,, at $200 Cnd funds when he found it on a bellow sale clearance.
He had a carbon fiber barrel chambered in the same cartridge,,, so he spun the threads,,, add the lock nut and turned it into a tack driver.
A bit over board one might think,,, then he plucked it into a aftermarket stock,,, added a 6x24 optic and new 2 stage trigger... Dang that thing shoots good.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/kvaw5UJM1jUvgiY88
https://photos.app.goo.gl/8XfrYGU9k9CBVrzv6
I guess most of us got schooled since those frugal actions are one tuff cooky. Who-da thunk !!!
A few other folks took this on as well with the Rugers and Savages,,, not to the extremes of the first build,,, it started to catch on,,, I think Ruger is coming out with a heavy barrel model sometime this year. $500 Cnd funds if I recall.
Good on them for building a target model for the next generation that can get into the shooting sports with out breaking the bank amount.
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Joefrazell
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One thing I will say is that going with an excellent scope from the start is a good choice. I'd try to spend at least 1k. You will upgrade your $4-700 rifle at some point. Your scope can stay with you forever. Plus your rifle will only be as accurate as your scope. Make no mistake. You will end up spending thousands one way or the other.
Eagle eyes 17
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I suppose that the debate of which comes first the better Rifle or the better Scope will go on forever.
Me personally, I would rather put the majority of my ' Gun Money' towards the best Quality, Value and with the most Features Rifle that I can get first , most of us have a good scope around that we can use until we can upgrade.
Me personally, I would rather put the majority of my ' Gun Money' towards the best Quality, Value and with the most Features Rifle that I can get first , most of us have a good scope around that we can use until we can upgrade.
Don A Parsons
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It really depends on a persons financial situation that dictates what a person can afford.
Kind of like the egg before the chicken or Vicey-Versi... Ha.
The ultimate goal would be to save up enough funds for one or the other,,,, that way 1/2 the project is sorted. I'd agree with choosing a rifle that fits me like a glove,,, that way I'd enjoy looking at it,,, shooting it,,, and taking it with me every where I go. LOL.
I've learned one thing that works for me,,, iron sights or a frugal optic will get me onto target,,, """If""" it has a solid tube and a good set of rings it would most likely last until a up-grade would happen.
The thing about having a extra scope kicking around when a new one shows up works for most shooters,,, most folks I know have a few of them kicking around.
If a person finds a used 3x9 what ever,,, it can be kept as a back up or sold off with out losing its value ,,, """in most cases""" that is.
The good old 3x9 optics have taken alot of critters over the years,,, one thing that allows these optics to perform is a $100 bypod and a solid bunny ear bag.
If the package can manage a 1" or 1 1/2" MOA group at a 100 yards,,,, I'd be off to the hunting grounds,,, keep the critters close.
Another thing would be general plinking ,,, very few shooters show up at the range to shoot the long distance budget packages,,, not saying that some don't.
Keeping the shooting package in check is sometimes a great place to start,,, the trick is to decide on what a person can afford.
The disposable income thing might be a factor in this for some.
I would think that this is what this thread is about.
I give my Weaver fixed 6 power scope to a young fellow 11 years ago,,, funny thing is that he's still using it on his Winchester 270,,, He's bagged some pretty nice bucks up here in the North,,, his reply to this is why change something thats working.
The world of options and where to get started is not suppose to come easy,,, if it was,,, then life would be waaaaay to boring. LOL
Kind of like the egg before the chicken or Vicey-Versi... Ha.
The ultimate goal would be to save up enough funds for one or the other,,,, that way 1/2 the project is sorted. I'd agree with choosing a rifle that fits me like a glove,,, that way I'd enjoy looking at it,,, shooting it,,, and taking it with me every where I go. LOL.
I've learned one thing that works for me,,, iron sights or a frugal optic will get me onto target,,, """If""" it has a solid tube and a good set of rings it would most likely last until a up-grade would happen.
The thing about having a extra scope kicking around when a new one shows up works for most shooters,,, most folks I know have a few of them kicking around.
If a person finds a used 3x9 what ever,,, it can be kept as a back up or sold off with out losing its value ,,, """in most cases""" that is.
The good old 3x9 optics have taken alot of critters over the years,,, one thing that allows these optics to perform is a $100 bypod and a solid bunny ear bag.
If the package can manage a 1" or 1 1/2" MOA group at a 100 yards,,,, I'd be off to the hunting grounds,,, keep the critters close.
Another thing would be general plinking ,,, very few shooters show up at the range to shoot the long distance budget packages,,, not saying that some don't.
Keeping the shooting package in check is sometimes a great place to start,,, the trick is to decide on what a person can afford.
The disposable income thing might be a factor in this for some.
I would think that this is what this thread is about.
I give my Weaver fixed 6 power scope to a young fellow 11 years ago,,, funny thing is that he's still using it on his Winchester 270,,, He's bagged some pretty nice bucks up here in the North,,, his reply to this is why change something thats working.
The world of options and where to get started is not suppose to come easy,,, if it was,,, then life would be waaaaay to boring. LOL
Eagle eyes 17
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Whatever Rifle you prefer to build onto is going to become a great Rifle for you.
crkckr
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No matter how good your rifle might be, it won't shoot without some decent glass on it. It doesn't have to cost thousands but it just about has to be one of the better brands. You can buy a cheaper scope and get a good one but your odds of getting that one good one are slim. More than likely you'll get one that has erratic movement and that won't hold zero like it should. The more you spend, the higher your odds of getting one that works right.
I also see a lot of advice to practice more. While it's good, basic advice, just sending rounds down range will not make you a better shooter. Practice does not make perfect... perfect practice makes perfect! New shooters need to learn to dope the wind, estimate ranges and learn how to nail those long range targets, whether hunting or target shooting. Keeping notes helps a lot in this category. Learn how to practice correctly and the hits will be intentional instead of blind luck!
Cheers,
crkckr
I also see a lot of advice to practice more. While it's good, basic advice, just sending rounds down range will not make you a better shooter. Practice does not make perfect... perfect practice makes perfect! New shooters need to learn to dope the wind, estimate ranges and learn how to nail those long range targets, whether hunting or target shooting. Keeping notes helps a lot in this category. Learn how to practice correctly and the hits will be intentional instead of blind luck!
Cheers,
crkckr
NEMTHunter
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Thats why Practice makes perfect..
Does a beginner know how to do it right? No not unless he has somebody to show him or her all the tricks. You can never have perfect practice if you do not now how to do it. Learning those better methods take either A- A teacher or B-Practice and learn from experience.What you are trying to say is, just sending shots down range willy nilly will not help much. I get that and agree. But we ALL had to start someplace with practicing. And I can say with 100% surety that not a one of us started right. And started knowing how to practice right. Unless we had a teacher taking us through it step by step. Again thats why practice makes perfect. we all have to start someplace. Not to mention. Its not that complicated unless you have variable wind between you and the target. Then learning to dope the wind is a big thing. Or more or less read the wind between you and the target. As far as estimating the range. That is something that's easy If you no the size of the target. All's that's needed is a MOA or Mil reticle. But it take knowing or learning how to use it and that takes practice. I will say this unless its short range just estimating the distance to a animal, though it can be very close IMHO is never the best way. And a lot can go wrong even for a experienced shooter. A rangefinder is a must IMHO. Now IMHO its good to use both, for the fact it will help sharpen your skills @ estimating distance. Modern software and technology has come along way. I use it. LOL
One way to help with this is if we have friends looking to get into LR shooting we should be willing to give them sound advice and help them. Unless they do not want help.. Then well. Let them learn it might stick better. Some people are that way.
Another thing to think about. How did the first LR shooter learn?
I guess my point is. We can not practice perfect if we do not know how to practice. Again we all had to start someplace And I believe it was not perfect most cases its far from it. AS a person learns they will then be able to practice better.
We owe it the what we are hunting to be the best we can be. I am here to learn what I can. Interacting like this helps all to learn if we are willing. Good conversation about the sport helps all to learn. If nothing it helps us to learn the character about each other. LOL
And as we all know The internet can be one of the hardest ways (well that and texting) to have a pain free conversation.I say all this to say. Do not take offense at what I wrote. I am just trying to find the angle you are coming from.
Thanks!!
