Long range all around western rifle

[FIGJAM]

Savage makes many changes regularly on their rifles with the "same" model that many parts are a challenge to find after you determine what you really have. Triggers are the worst. Experience speaking.

None of that has been my experience with Savage. I am not a loyal savage guy, but I have a few of them and have owned a few more in the past. The new savage 110's they have come out with recently are awesome. Just got my son a storm in 223 and it shoots 1/2 moa with factory crap. Love the new accufit stocks and their accutrigger is pretty awesome for a stock trigger (triggers are personal preference).

 

[Hespco]

This has nothing to do with the subject being discussed. Just though you all might enjoy this cat walking thru my lower field. Found a mature muley doe recently killed. Stomach ripper open & covered in leaves .

 

[wv270wsm]

Would like to be there to put some dogs on that sucker

 

[MudRunner2005]

Would like to be there to put some dogs on that sucker

Do you have Dogo Argentinos? They were bred to catch large cats and wild hogs. I've been wanting one of those for years. They're like the Universal Soldiers of the dog world...Fast, smart, protective, and super strong. Not to mention, ridiculously expensive for a puppy from a respectable professional breeder.

 

[snowypeakoutdoors]

I would look at other options besides Browning. If you are planning on shooting out to 1k you are going to want to consider something you can shoot a lot and rebarrel. Many rifles are easy to do now, Browning isn't one of them. Hell, I can swap my barrel on my TRG 42 easier than my ABOLT II. My ABOLT 2 is now pretty much a paperweight. Not worth messing with. Savages are really easy. Just a thought.

 

[MudRunner2005]

I would look at other options besides Browning. If you are planning on shooting out to 1k you are going to want to consider something you can shoot a lot and rebarrel. Many rifles are easy to do now, Browning isn't one of them. Hell, I can swap my barrel on my TRG 42 easier than my ABOLT II. My ABOLT 2 is now pretty much a paperweight. Not worth messing with. Savages are really easy. Just a thought.

I beg to differ... I have had several, and have a custom built off an A-Bolt II action that I burnt the factory barrel out on. It's one of the smoothest bolts, has 60º bolt-throw, and the 3-lug design handles pressure better than the 2-lug design.

 

[wv270wsm]

Do you have Dogo Argentinos? They were bred to catch large cats and wild hogs. I've been wanting one of those for years. They're like the Universal Soldiers of the dog world...Fast, smart, protective, and super strong. Not to mention, ridiculously expensive for a puppy from a respectable professional breeder.

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We run walkers pretty well any and all hound breeds . We don't have the big cats here in Wv anyhow . But we can run bear all year long. With almost a grand total of six weeks of actual kill season

 

[JAYgs8163]

Would like to be there to put some dogs on that sucker

I'd like to put a 178 ELDX through him!

 

[JAYgs8163]

And there it is again with Savage no love. I say to all who don't appreciate the Savage, I'l send ya a self addressed postage paid box, put said offensive rifle in box, take to your nearest postal/deliverer, your problem is solved

Here's one of those terrible savages. $700 dollar long range Hunter in 300 WM. Likes a steady diet of 178's.

 

[snowypeakoutdoors]

I beg to differ... I have had several, and have a custom built off an A-Bolt II action that I burnt the factory barrel out on. It's one of the smoothest bolts, has 60º bolt-throw, and the 3-lug design handles pressure better than the 2-lug design.

Differ on what? What do you not agree with? Are you saying the Browning is just as easy as a Remage/Savage/Tikka/Howa/Ruger and on and on....where you can order up a barrel and put it on yourself at home with an action wrench and a barrel nut or in the case of some the tolerances are such you can just order a shouldered barrel.(By the way, what smith did you use and how long did it take, or did you do it yourself? I am still thinking about having mine done.) ETA: Oh I see the underlined part now that you disagree with. Sorry, trying to read and post on my little phone.

 

[MudRunner2005]

Differ on what? What do you not agree with? Are you saying the Browning is just as easy as a Remage/Savage/Tikka/Howa/Ruger and on and on....where you can order up a barrel and put it on yourself at home with an action wrench and a barrel nut or in the case of some the tolerances are such you can just order a shouldered barrel.(By the way, what smith did you use and how long did it take, or did you do it yourself? I am still thinking about having mine done.) ETA: Oh I see the underlined part now that you disagree with. Sorry, trying to read and post on my little phone.

I was disagreeing with the "they're not worth fooling with" part.

My smith is not a smith by trade, so he's not big on taking in outside (non-local) work. He's a very peculiar guy. Wish I could afford the tools to do it myself, I've always wanted to get into gunsmithing. I'm sure somewhere someone could rig up a barrel nut setup for an A-Bolt/A-Bolt II rifle. The only issue is, they're not a high-demand due to lots of false information on the web, and scared gunsmiths who won't touch them because of hear-say. Once you get the factory barrel off, it's no different than any other rifle build. And once you get the factory barrel off, rebarreling from there is all gravy.

The trick is, you have to slowly heat-up the front of the receiver to melt the red loctite-type material that is on the factory barrel threads, BEFORE you can attempt to unscrew the factory barrel. Once you get it hot enough, then you can twist off the factory barrel, clean all the threads out and remove all that red sticky stuff. From there, the job will be straight-forward like any other rifle build.

 

[Danehunter]

Please do not hunt bull elk with a 6.5 CM. Cows under 400 yards, yes, but not bull elk.

I have a 6.5 CM Ruger Precision Rifle for competition and it easily handles 1,000 yards FOR PAPER or steel.
In 2018 I also bought a 6.5 CM Browning X-Bolt Pro lightweight mountain rifle. (BTW, I live in Nevada but used to live in Erie, PA.)

BUT Browning did not make the X-Bolt Pro in 6.5 PRC at the time I bought my rifle.
HOWSOMEVER... I am selling that beautiful rifle and getting the same rifle in 6.5 PRC because that cartridge is just so good for western hunting but not a "barrel burner".

**Don't take my word for it. Go to Youtube and search for "6.5 PRC reviews" and watch the "TRUE MAGNUM" video where they compare the 6.5 CM, 6.5 PRC and .300 Win mag. They explain clearly with data why they feel the 6.5 PRC is the best for long range North American hunting.

Would I shoot a polar bear or grizzly with it? NOPE! But anything else in North America will easily fall to it within, say, 600 yards, and ethical distance. (See the video.)
I own a nice Browning A-Bolt in .300 Win mag and I'm selling it to get the 6.5 PRC X-Bolt Pro. THAT is how much faith I put in that cartridge.

Eric B.

 

[FIGJAM]

Please do not hunt bull elk with a 6.5 CM. Cows under 400 yards, yes, but not bull elk.

I have a 6.5 CM Ruger Precision Rifle for competition and it easily handles 1,000 yards FOR PAPER or steel.
In 2018 I also bought a 6.5 CM Browning X-Bolt Pro lightweight mountain rifle. (BTW, I live in Nevada but used to live in Erie, PA.)

BUT Browning did not make the X-Bolt Pro in 6.5 PRC at the time I bought my rifle.
HOWSOMEVER... I am selling that beautiful rifle and getting the same rifle in 6.5 PRC because that cartridge is just so good for western hunting but not a "barrel burner".

**Don't take my word for it. Go to Youtube and search for "6.5 PRC reviews" and watch the "TRUE MAGNUM" video where they compare the 6.5 CM, 6.5 PRC and .300 Win mag. They explain clearly with data why they feel the 6.5 PRC is the best for long range North American hunting.

Would I shoot a polar bear or grizzly with it? NOPE! But anything else in North America will easily fall to it within, say, 600 yards, and ethical distance. (See the video.)
I own a nice Browning A-Bolt in .300 Win mag and I'm selling it to get the 6.5 PRC X-Bolt Pro. THAT is how much faith I put in that cartridge.

Eric B.

This is funny as hell - I laughed out loud. Thanks man, I needed that. Its been a long day. I have a 260 rem, and I would shoot big trophy sized elk out to 800 yards with confidence with it. Run the numbers at the altitude where the elk hang out with 147gr eldms. Sure the PRC is a great cartridge, it is no different ballistically than a 6.5x284, but it only gives you an extra couple hundred FPS over a creed or a 260.

 

[bigngreen]

This is funny as hell - I laughed out loud. Thanks man, I needed that. Its been a long day. I have a 260 rem, and I would shoot big trophy sized elk out to 800 yards with confidence with it. Run the numbers at the altitude where the elk hang out with 147gr eldms. Sure the PRC is a great cartridge, it is no different ballistically than a 6.5x284, but it only gives you an extra couple hundred FPS over a creed or a 260.

Some of the toughest elk I've seen are cows, an old lead cow has seen double the life an average bull will, I have no problem pole axing a bull with whatever is in my hands at the time, maybe even, wait for it.......... a 6.5 Creedmore!!