Nice Buck! the LRAB seem to expand well. My problem is getting them to shoot small groups on two of my rifles. Both are .284 Winchester,s, With long throats. One has an 8'' twist and the other has a 9'' twist. I have tried the 150 up to 175 grain. 1 and half groups are the norm. Both rifles shoot Berger VLDs great.???. I have tried seating them long and short still shoots bad. Any suggestions??.gun)