wbm
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Mine is still as good as the year I put it on....no sticky mess, no debris collection, my coat is still clean. Would definitely buy another.
I own 'em, I love 'em. They're great on shotguns.I have a Fierce a Fury chambered in 7mm Rem Mag. It has a Limbsaver recoil pad. I've shot it with a brake as well as suppressed and I have issues spotting my shots. Question is, is the Limbsaver recoil pad partially to blame? Seems like having a butt pad that is squishy isn't necessarily something that would make it easier to spot your shots.
Not saying my form can't be the culprit but I feel like I have a fair understanding of the fundamentals of marksmanship, so form aside, has anyone seen their ability to spot their impact diminished after installing a Limbsaver vs a traditional harder rubber pad?
Yes they work get the new style instead of the old rib styleI have issues between the 500-800 yd range. If I'm shooting 1000 or beyond the rifle usually recovers and I can spot my impact. As stated by others, a 7 rem mag pushing a 180 Berger over 2900 is not going to make this super easy. I shoot off of a Harris bipod with a rear bag. Right now I have a Gunwerks 6IX Suppressor up front. I totally hear you on the form comments, I work hard to get proper body to rifle alignment, bipod preload, shooting hand pull straight back into my shoulder all while maintaining a natural point of aim. Doesn't always happen and I can tell when I've made a mistake. The rifle is an absolute tack driver, but I am not a huge fan of the stock. You can see in the photo below there is a significant vertical separation between the centerline of the bore and top of the butt pad. I have shot other rifles with a manners style stock where the butt pad is more in line with the centerline of the bore and this has made it exponentially easier to spot my impacts. The offset in my stock creates a moment arm causing the rifle to want to rotate up when fired. I am just wondering if this is exaggerated by the squishy Limbsaver butt pad or if that is in my head. I'm ok with people telling me it is my form, but if there is something in my setup that is adding to the issue I'm just trying to vet that.
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No offense taken, I think I am. But I've never had formal training. I bought Jacob Bynum's rifles only Fundamentals training video. I also have listened to a lot of Caylen Wojcik's content. So I think I have the basics, but could always get better. Having a stock that would allow me to get more behind the centerline of the bore would be a big benefit, but if most guys say they have no issues with a sporter stock then I guess I need to go back to the drawing board. I could Also probably get to where I want if I screwed on a APA brake but I know myself too well that I will shoot without plugs if I get a quick shot in the timberDo not take insult but are you loading the Harris bi-pod properly? Also as has been stated unless you are the Hulk it will be very difficult to get maintain your poa.
My only issue with Limbsaver pads is that they turn into a sticky mess after several years. Makes a mess of your safe carpet, collects all kinds of debris in the field and sticks to your coat. I'll never buy another one.
I have issues between the 500-800 yd range. If I'm shooting 1000 or beyond the rifle usually recovers and I can spot my impact. As stated by others, a 7 rem mag pushing a 180 Berger over 2900 is not going to make this super easy. I shoot off of a Harris bipod with a rear bag. Right now I have a Gunwerks 6IX Suppressor up front. I totally hear you on the form comments, I work hard to get proper body to rifle alignment, bipod preload, shooting hand pull straight back into my shoulder all while maintaining a natural point of aim. Doesn't always happen and I can tell when I've made a mistake. The rifle is an absolute tack driver, but I am not a huge fan of the stock. You can see in the photo below there is a significant vertical separation between the centerline of the bore and top of the butt pad. I have shot other rifles with a manners style stock where the butt pad is more in line with the centerline of the bore and this has made it exponentially easier to spot my impacts. The offset in my stock creates a moment arm causing the rifle to want to rotate up when fired. I am just wondering if this is exaggerated by the squishy Limbsaver butt pad or if that is in my head. I'm ok with people telling me it is my form, but if there is something in my setup that is adding to the issue I'm just trying to vet that.
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Interesting, do you have a photo of your rife?Pitch may be a factor. I just had a squishy pad installed on a light sporter rifle, and the stockmaker who installed it mentioned that the stock had no pitch. He changed that. He pointed it out to me by standing the rifle in front of his gun safe, and with the butt flat on the floor the barrel was right up against the front of the safe, full length - just like your picture here. He cut out a wafer-thin wedge in the buttstock, which put a bit of pitch into the equation. This made a world of difference in the felt recoil, and it did not induce muzzle. I don't know if this is a consideration with your issue or not, but I do know that pitch is not just a gun fit thing for your grouse gun.
Interesting, do you have a photo of your rife?
I don't think so.....I love my limbsavers...staying in the scope is Art with a ton of practice....recoil is the issue, head alignment.....I don't know if you do this or not....if you don't you should....do not release the trigger after you fire until back on the target! Makes a large difference and helps prevent snap shotsI have a Fierce a Fury chambered in 7mm Rem Mag. It has a Limbsaver recoil pad. I've shot it with a brake as well as suppressed and I have issues spotting my shots. Question is, is the Limbsaver recoil pad partially to blame? Seems like having a butt pad that is squishy isn't necessarily something that would make it easier to spot your shots.
Not saying my form can't be the culprit but I feel like I have a fair understanding of the fundamentals of marksmanship, so form aside, has anyone seen their ability to spot their impact diminished after installing a Limbsaver vs a traditional harder rubber pad?
I like the limbsavers as well. I have them on several rifles, 2-300 win mag,338 win mag,375 HH and a 308 win in a mod. 99 savage that I bought for my son as his 1st rifle. All rifles seem to shoot to the same point of impact after they were installed vs before. One thing I have found out over the yrs. is the shooter needs to be consistent in stock placement on the shoulder as well as being "square behind the gun". By that I mean- body not too far offset sideways one way or the other depending if you are right or left handed and also not directly inline with the gun- especially when prone. If your gun is rotating upward when fired, check the position of your shoulder on the stock before you send one downrange. Sometimes it is just a matter of repositioning your shoulder on the stock until you get the desired results then getting used to it so it becomes automatic and you are in the "zone". Another thing you might try is shooting it off a lead sled or similar platform without strapping the barrel down and see how it behaves and where the force of recoil is in relation to the pad.I have issues between the 500-800 yd range. If I'm shooting 1000 or beyond the rifle usually recovers and I can spot my impact. As stated by others, a 7 rem mag pushing a 180 Berger over 2900 is not going to make this super easy. I shoot off of a Harris bipod with a rear bag. Right now I have a Gunwerks 6IX Suppressor up front. I totally hear you on the form comments, I work hard to get proper body to rifle alignment, bipod preload, shooting hand pull straight back into my shoulder all while maintaining a natural point of aim. Doesn't always happen and I can tell when I've made a mistake. The rifle is an absolute tack driver, but I am not a huge fan of the stock. You can see in the photo below there is a significant vertical separation between the centerline of the bore and top of the butt pad. I have shot other rifles with a manners style stock where the butt pad is more in line with the centerline of the bore and this has made it exponentially easier to spot my impacts. The offset in my stock creates a moment arm causing the rifle to want to rotate up when fired. I am just wondering if this is exaggerated by the squishy Limbsaver butt pad or if that is in my head. I'm ok with people telling me it is my form, but if there is something in my setup that is adding to the issue I'm just trying to vet that.
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In our stockmaking, we do find the Limbsavers to be almost 'too soft' for calibers above 308 or so. 1" Pachmayr Decelerator is our default, and no complaints.I have a Fierce a Fury chambered in 7mm Rem Mag. It has a Limbsaver recoil pad. I've shot it with a brake as well as suppressed and I have issues spotting my shots. Question is, is the Limbsaver recoil pad partially to blame? Seems like having a butt pad that is squishy isn't necessarily something that would make it easier to spot your shots.
Not saying my form can't be the culprit but I feel like I have a fair understanding of the fundamentals of marksmanship, so form aside, has anyone seen their ability to spot their impact diminished after installing a Limbsaver vs a traditional harder rubber pad?
In our stockmaking, we do find the Limbsavers to be almost 'too soft' for calibers above 308 or so. 1" Pachmayr Decelerator is our default, and no complaints.
The run of defective gooey/melty limbsavers still crop up occasionally- Simms labs is good about replacing them, and they have had to pay for any number of gunsafe carpet floors etc.
-Wes Chapman
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