Mike Matteson
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Lead Poisoning
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Mike Matteson
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I follow now. I just wanted to **** sure I wasn't missing something, and become an outlaw unknow to me. Well I don't own any like that to start with except an AR-M4.
never know that the stupid people in Washington are passing into laws.
Brace would stabilize a pistol for sure. You still have to go thur a background check to get a firearm anyway. So what's the big deal anyway?
Calvin45
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Ok, ok... I'll take that. Just checkinActually, I appreciate you a lot, bro...the willingness to make humor at your own expense. Super day to you - and to all the good boys & gals on here..,
I appreciate that. It's important not to take oneself too seriously…or you'll be about the only person that does so!
While you have gun rights far beyond what I do in Canada we're kind of in the same pickle: the "big deal" is an unrelenting effort by our administrations to vilify or deny the possibility of responsible gun ownership and make it as convoluted and restrictive and difficult as possible. Death by 1000 technicalities.
L2land
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you're right, it doesn't make sense. NFA restrictions shouldn't exist. These people that come up with the ideas of what needs to be restricted and what doesn't generally don't know anything about firearms. The head of the ATF couldn't define what an "assault rifle" was supposed to mean. It too is a meaningless term. Why do people have to jump through hoops to put a suppressor on their barrel so it's quieter? Because they think it makes a gun silent and everyone will turn into a hitman? It's all rediculous.
Mike Matteson
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Got that right! So many people are afraid of there shadow might get them. I taught my sons as my dad did, and oversaw others to get the same training with firearms. I did likewise with my sons, and they are doing the samething with their kids. So many haven't done that. It's sad. Even my sons took others out to fire firearms that hadn't done that before. They were college students.
It';s sad that it has become that way in not teaching firearm safety, and passing it down.
There is so many leftwinger out there on both side of the border it isn't funny. I have failed to see how people think that things should be free.
I am beginning to see that our school here in the US are not teaching U.S. history anymore. It's stupid not to know how this country came about. It could have done better, hind sight is 20/20, and going forward at best is 20/100. History will teach you on what happens, time and time again.
Both our country are leftwing now. Maybe we are going to pull out of it this next election here. Nothing is free!!!
Model19Man
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Hunting has zero to do with the second amendment.
xsn10s
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Yes I know that. The antigunners don't. So they'll use economics to ban things without banning.
WYO300RUM
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M1A1ABRAMS
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HUNTING Tyrants & traitors doesn't apply ?
L2land
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Are they considered predators? We have an open season on predators where I live. Can't find many tyrants or traitors either come to think of it. Makes sense…
M1A1ABRAMS
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I'm not far from their Den.Are they considered predators? We have an open season on predators where I live. Can't find many tyrants or traitors either come to think of it. Makes sense…
pcmacd
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One gets lead poisoning mostly from primers. 1) when they are in the gunsmoke, and 2) when we handle spent cases and primers. That's why I always put some paint thinner in my brass tumbler - so there will be no dust when I shake out the brass.
If you swallowed a bunch of oxidized bullets, that could be a problem. But it takes a long time for those bullets to oxidize. A VERY long time.
I used to be an industrial hygienist where I monitored factory worker exposures to toxic stuff.
We were never worried about new, elemental lead in chunks. Sure. You get it on your hands, but if you don't smoke, eat, rub your eyes nor pick your nose you are good. It washes off and is not absorbed by the skin. Open sores are a different manner.
Lead vapors (that takes lots more heat than your lead pot!) and dust were a problem, because the dust oxidizes so easily - LOTS of surface area.
I've read you could fill your craw with newly cast lead and it will just pass thru you. It is not the elemental lead that kills. It is the oxides from really old stuff out in the weather, and the dross you pull off of your lead pot, and the primers (lead styphnate) that will poison you. Lead oxides and lead salts (primers) are a serious exposure issue if you are not careful.
That being said, I used to shoot indoors in a North OC California range. I would blow black shite out of my nose at home. I was kidding myself. After all, the range operators said that, "The California environmental guys said we were great!"
But you know there is an issue when your gunsmoke blows back into your face.
I stopped shooting indoors, continued to cast LOTS of bullets and shoot outdoors, and my lead problem went away.
I just don't understand how these birds are being poisoned? They must be eating ancient corroded and oxidized pellets. But WHY would they do THAT? If the lead is old enough to be oxidized, the carcass has long since been void of meat.
I'm just sayin'...
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If you swallowed a bunch of oxidized bullets, that could be a problem. But it takes a long time for those bullets to oxidize. A VERY long time.
I used to be an industrial hygienist where I monitored factory worker exposures to toxic stuff.
We were never worried about new, elemental lead in chunks. Sure. You get it on your hands, but if you don't smoke, eat, rub your eyes nor pick your nose you are good. It washes off and is not absorbed by the skin. Open sores are a different manner.
Lead vapors (that takes lots more heat than your lead pot!) and dust were a problem, because the dust oxidizes so easily - LOTS of surface area.
I've read you could fill your craw with newly cast lead and it will just pass thru you. It is not the elemental lead that kills. It is the oxides from really old stuff out in the weather, and the dross you pull off of your lead pot, and the primers (lead styphnate) that will poison you. Lead oxides and lead salts (primers) are a serious exposure issue if you are not careful.
That being said, I used to shoot indoors in a North OC California range. I would blow black shite out of my nose at home. I was kidding myself. After all, the range operators said that, "The California environmental guys said we were great!"
But you know there is an issue when your gunsmoke blows back into your face.
I stopped shooting indoors, continued to cast LOTS of bullets and shoot outdoors, and my lead problem went away.
I just don't understand how these birds are being poisoned? They must be eating ancient corroded and oxidized pellets. But WHY would they do THAT? If the lead is old enough to be oxidized, the carcass has long since been void of meat.
I'm just sayin'...
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HOLY COW, I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS THREAD IS STILL GOING ON.
