+1 on surplus auctions. I got my southbend 10" (has 1.5" hollow spindle) from a universtiy physics lab. included 3 jaw, 4 jaw, collet chuck, taper attachment,etc. and a 1 ton pickup load of tooling for $2000.00 This lathe was used to make one off tools and physics models., so, these great machines are out there if you look long and hard enough