birddog 68
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Are you serious?
Is this where muzzleloading is going?!
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I'm guilty and Da@n proud of owning a smokeless muzzleloader!!! Absolutely love the accuracy and power these monsters deliver. Got another one being built as well. No one quit driving from the transition from Model T to modern vehicles, no one pulls their power meter out of the socket to light candles and haul water from the well in buckets. Hey we even went from switchboard phone to cell phones and internet.
Some people prefer to stay old fashioned and I don't think any modern muzzle loader looks down at them. Personal preferences are just that
Yep, welcome to Alabama.
Far far from fail proof ignition.
Meh, a lot of people are going to down modern muzzle loaders because they feel the "intent" of the hunt isn't there. To that I'll say, this is how people view your regular hunting rifles and MSRs too. You don't need them because the founders didn't "intend" for more efficient firearms. Keep letting that divide get bigger between traditionalists and people just trying to make the best use of modern technology and see where that gets the hunting community. When states disallowed scopes and use of modern propellants, they alienated a lot of people who will just not hunt anymore. Eventually, no one will "need" to hunt and you and your kids won't need firearms. Just remember where it all started.
QuietTexan
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I'm still surprised that all MLs don't have to go through an FFL.
muleystalker
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Most states out west that rifle would not be allowed during the muzzle loader season due to several reasons in different states. Colorado for example I believe for elk is .50 minimum and open sites only, also has to be black powder or black powder substitute. Other states dictate it has to be a side lock, others state it has to be an open to the elements cap system and still others no scope, some no sabots bullets. I don't know anywhere out west that this rifle would be legal during muzzle loader season. Now they are legal during the general rifle season. I have one I built and I have to say it's one of the most accurate rifles I have and I have 3 custom rifle I shoot in Long range F-Class comps every month.
Wedgy
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Wow, how long is your season ?
Legal in Oklahoma. We even allow that one that uses powder "cartridges" to be inserted in the muzzle end. I'm all for it. It encourages folks to get out in the woods instead of staring at computers all day.
Archery opens around my house Oct. 1. Rest of the state Oct 15. Gun season at my house, I'm in a special zone. special muzzle loader Nov 1st until the 6th. Rifle starts Nov 7th and runs until end of Jan. rest of the state starts third Saturday in Nov. Ends Feb. 10 th. Rut around my home is in mid November. South Alabama is end of Jan until mid Feb. I've seen bucks chasing does at the 1st part of Turkey season in that auburn area. It's crazy the way the rut works in Alabama. It was restocked with deer from Wisconsin and north Carolina. Plus the native deer that rutted real late. So, from mid November until the end of February bucks are rutting somewhere in the state.
I don't know how they all just disappeared, but they are not where I hunt. The EHD I think hammered more of them then what we thought. There was a 200" taken illegally in the area, but it's also some weather issues as well. The two worst firearm opening days I've ever had in both states. Pouring rain in MN, and a VERY cold winter storm and snow for the opening day in WI was to much! hope you are well. Say hi to Bill!
muleystalker
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Yes but I was referring to the reference "I was just absolutely astonished at what is now available to "guaranteed to get your elk" at 750 yards with a MZ." As I stated in all states out west that contain elk I don't know of one that they are legal in during muzzle loader season.. I know there are some states in eastern part of the country where they are legal during ML season but out west they are not. in fact it is difficult to figure out what BP rifle to buy because every state out here has its own set of rules on what is legal during ML season. I don't have a problem with them, as I stated I built one and have shot it out to 1140 yards and have killed several deer out to 875 yards granted it was during rifle season.
Oklahoma has elk. They can't keep the dern things in Colorado lol
