I need help with a .300 prc build.

[Will.284]

I to have been looking at the 300 prc and 338 edge , it's a hard decision as I'll be hunting with either one. Edge dies are expensive-80 rounds of prc factory ammo for what edge does cost and I've got components to load 300 prc and the edge, dang it build one of each!!

 

[C.O. Shooter]

I love my 338 Lapua. However, if I had to do over again, I may have went 300 Norma mag improved.

 

[FEENIX]

Working on a new build, and need some advice. The rifle will be mainly used at a range from 1000y to one mile, unless I can find a range thats stretches farther, though I may hunt with it as well. I am going with a Impact Precision action. I'm leaning towards Bartlein 1/8 twist 28" for 245g rounds. I'm leaning towards a TT diamond 2 stage. I'm leaning for a chassis and being adjustable, as I'm 6'4", and my daughter who will inherit the rifle is 5'6". Would prefer the rifle be 12lb+ to take a lil of the recoil away for my daughter. Would like to keep the chassis under 2k. I already have a banish 30 gold suppressor, and quick attach muzzle break for it and a set of atlas bipods for it. The scope will be a vortex strike eagle 5-25×56 untill I save up for a vortex razor gen 3 6-36x56. Guess my question is, is there a better build for 1000y-2000y?

The .300 NM/I is probably your easy button. If your action can accommodate ~4" COAL, the 300 RUM, the 30-378 WBY, or Kirby Allen's wildcats (Allen Express and Raptor, if it is in your consideration), you'll need the right bolt face, though.

 

[MagnumManiac]

The only + I can find on 33cals is weight and very little bc gain with comparable bullets. Those heavier drop more. Giving up impact energy over drop for paper isn't worth the extra powder in my book. YMMV? 250gr 30cal is far better than 250gr 33cal bc wise. Depending on which 250gr there's .100 difference. Jumping from 1 mile to 2k can be a lot. I have no confirmed numbers, only computer generated with those. On that same note using 150gr smk 26cal in my setup, it's still supersonic passed 2k.

That is not an apples to apples comparison like you think it is.

A 338 has much heavier and higher BC bullets than 30 cal, drop doesn't matter, it is bucking the wind that counts for ELR.
I have my 300-416 Rigby Improved 40°, it propels 230's well into 3300fps, but for me, this is still limited to 1600 metres (1 mile). The reason is wind drift, nothing else.
A 300 PRC is no 2000yrd gun, if it is, then so is any other SMALL cartridge starting at 6.5mm, which has some of the highest BC bullets out there under 30 cal. It does not make them a 2000yrd cartridge/bullet in my experience, great to a 1000, good to a mile if pushed fast enough.
Supersonic flight is nothing without wind bucking ability…

Cheers.

 

[ARlife4me]

That is not an apples to apples comparison like you think it is.

A 338 has much heavier and higher BC bullets than 30 cal, drop doesn't matter, it is bucking the wind that counts for ELR.
I have my 300-416 Rigby Improved 40°, it propels 230's well into 3300fps, but for me, this is still limited to 1600 metres (1 mile). The reason is wind drift, nothing else.
A 300 PRC is no 2000yrd gun, if it is, then so is any other SMALL cartridge starting at 6.5mm, which has some of the highest BC bullets out there under 30 cal. It does not make them a 2000yrd cartridge/bullet in my experience, great to a 1000, good to a mile if pushed fast enough.
Supersonic flight is nothing without wind bucking ability…

Cheers.

so, a 250gr a-tip (.878 bc) is inferior to a 33cal 250gr at it's best best bc which is .100-.150 less. i can't do a 300gr 30cal. same weight on 250grs bucking wind, so how's that different? either way you compensate for drop and drift. some needs more than others.

 

[ARlife4me]

i didn't state it was best, but it's possible just like 22cals going over 1k.

 

[quandary]

To address your question. I have an MPA chassis and and XLR chassis both are good. The XLR is for hunting the MPA for the range. At the pricing you are looking for I would go with the MPA. I have a BA Hybrid. With the MPA weight kit and Grey Ops side weights the chassis weights 9.4lbs. All in with my action, barrel, optics, suppressor and bipod its about 21lbs. In a 6.5PRC there is virtually no felt recoil. You can do all that for around $1,400. Add $500 if you want to go with the MPA Matrix Pro.

 

[Will.284]

I'm only hunting with whatever my decision will be I live in central Mt where we can shoot a grand easy and we get wind like nothing you've ever seen so I want something to buck the wind . A .300 Norma is interesting

 

[MagnumManiac]

so, a 250gr a-tip (.878 bc) is inferior to a 33cal 250gr at it's best best bc which is .100-.150 less. i can't do a 300gr 30cal. same weight on 250grs bucking wind, so how's that different? either way you compensate for drop and drift. some needs more than others.

No, that's not what I said or meant.
There is no way on Earth comparing SAME bullet weights in different cals is a fair, or correct, comparison.
What needs to be compared for correct analysis is highest BC, not weight, in BOTH cals. 338 wins hands down, 375 wins hands down over both, and NONE compare to 408…
It's the same as the old argument of 7mm against 30 cal, equal weight BC wins for 7mm, BUT, 30 cal has much higher BC with heavier bullets, then comparisons go out the window.
Have been doing this, designing cartridges and testing actual pressure to know what works.
The PRC is nothing new or special, the 300 RUM trumps it all over the place.

Cheers.

 

[Trm82]

Working on a new build, and need some advice. The rifle will be mainly used at a range from 1000y to one mile, unless I can find a range thats stretches farther, though I may hunt with it as well. I am going with an Impact Precision action. I'm leaning towards Bartlein 1/8 twist 28" for 245g rounds. I'm leaning towards a TT diamond 2 stage. I'm leaning for a chassis and being adjustable, as I'm 6'4", and my daughter who will inherit the rifle is 5'6". Would prefer the rifle be 12lb+ to take a lil of the recoil away for my daughter. Would like to keep the chassis under 2k. I already have a banish 30 gold suppressor, and quick attach muzzle break for it and a set of atlas bipods for it. The scope will be a vortex strike eagle 5-25×56 untill I save up for a vortex razor gen 3 6-36x56. Guess my question is, is there a better build for 1000y-2000y?

Definitely get the Bartlein 1-8 twist.
I had a rifle last year in 300 prc that I loaded 245 gr elites. It was the most insanely accurate and consistent rifle I had ever owned.
This is a group at 1480 yards
I took it to 2000 yards with awesome results.

You do not need a case that will push the 245s at 3000 fps to shoot out to 2000 yards reliably.
I proved that last winter with some amazing shots and I was only launching them at 2808 fps.
Do the 300 prc you won't regret it.

 

[Trm82]

That is not an apples to apples comparison like you think it is.

A 338 has much heavier and higher BC bullets than 30 cal, drop doesn't matter, it is bucking the wind that counts for ELR.
I have my 300-416 Rigby Improved 40°, it propels 230's well into 3300fps, but for me, this is still limited to 1600 metres (1 mile). The reason is wind drift, nothing else.
A 300 PRC is no 2000yrd gun, if it is, then so is any other SMALL cartridge starting at 6.5mm, which has some of the highest BC bullets out there under 30 cal. It does not make them a 2000yrd cartridge/bullet in my experience, great to a 1000, good to a mile if pushed fast enough.
Supersonic flight is nothing without wind bucking ability…

Cheers.

You are wrong about that.
My 300 prc was excellent to 2000 yards

that's a 245 at 2808 fps

This is a 300 Berger at 2750 fps .
Looks pretty good to me for the 30 cal at 2808 fps

This a 250 gr 338 at 2950 fps
The 300 prc can hang with the 338 lapua any day and cheaper to shot also

 

[rarar1317983]

Definitely get the Bartlein 1-8 twist.
I had a rifle last year in 300 prc that I loaded 245 gr elites. It was the most insanely accurate and consistent rifle I had ever owned.
This is a group at 1480 yards
I took it to 2000 yards with awesome results.
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Hell yea, nice. Decided I'm pluuling the trigger on the build next week. Definitely going with a bartlein 28" 1:8 stainless. Impact presion 787r, and trigger tech diamond 2 stage. Wade from Impact recommended the builder, so I'm sure im in good hands. MPA matrix pro has def been the chassis I have been eyeing. Guess main point if the post was to see if anyone would recomend a better piece to the build.

 

[Trm82]

Hell yea, nice. Decided I'm pluuling the trigger on the build next week. Definitely going with a bartlein 28" 1:8 stainless. Impact presion 787r, and trigger tech diamond 2 stage. Wade from Impact recommended the builder, so I'm sure im in good hands. MPA matrix pro has def been the chassis I have been eyeing. Guess main point if the post was to see if anyone would recomend a better piece to the build.

Good choice 28" is an excellent choice.
I need another 300 prc to shoot 245's they are a lot of fun.
Keep us posted on your new unit when you get it I'd love to see it and how it performs.
Mine was 26" bbl I forgot to mention that
This was 2000 yards on 3 rd shot into the orange which was 15" square and was our goal

This is 1 mile in 3 shots ( the bigger spot in orange )

This is just and example of where my shots went at one mile. As I made the adjustments
So predictable.

 

[rarar1317983]

Good choice 28" is an excellent choice.
I need another 300 prc to shoot 245's they are a lot of fun.
Keep us posted on your new unit when you get it I'd love to see it and how it performs.
Mine was 26" bbl I forgot to mention that
This was 2000 yards on 3 rd shot into the orange which was 15" square and was our goal
View attachment 625297
This is 1 mile in 3 shots ( the bigger spot in orange )

View attachment 625306
This is just and example of where my shots went at one mile. As I made the adjustments
So predictable.
View attachment 625307

Was debating on a 30" barrel for the extra velocity, thinking 28" should do though.