I tend to side with MtMuley on this particular subject being a native born and raised Montanan and been hunting all my life as well as working my younger years for an outfitter in hell roaring wilderness area on the edge of yellowstone park. His arguments may not be subtle, but they are to the point. E-bikes have motors, (as quiet as they may be), thereby should be classified as motor vehicles. Do horses make an impact on the land? Yes. But they are not motorized in anyway shape or form(and last I checked walked,be it on four legs)and are an animal and are considered primitive just like the animals that live in these back country areas that are hard to access and should remain that way. There are areas that I hope no man,horse or bike never touch.
Hunting with E-bikes
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dmj
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I sure don't want to get into the middle of any kind of a dispute over this issue. And I sure don't think issues that pit hunters verses hunters is in anyway a good thing. One statement that has been made several times, is to the effect that times change and we need to move on. It does worry me that if we aren't careful this type of thinking could threaten our rights to hunt and own firearms. Just a thought. Be safe and hope everyone is having a great Independence Day.
My taxpayer money, so for anyone to wants to exclude others, you owe me a refund.
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Cool, do you mind sharing the make and model? I was considering the Burley COHO XC (very pricey). Thanks!
Ed
My tax dollars pay for interstates, but I can't ride my bicycle on them. I want a refund!!!!! I feel so excluded and offended and discriminated against, and bwwwahhhhh..........
That is some funny stuff! Nobody pays highway use taxes (commonly called gas tax) on bicycles. Uninformed response, but funny, none-the-less.My tax dollars pay for interstates, but I can't ride my bicycle on them. I want a refund!!!!! I feel so excluded and offended and discriminated against, and bwwwahhhhh..........
Gas Taxes and What You Need to Know
Gas taxes are imposed by the federal and state governments on motor fuel purchases, with most of the money going toward road infrastructure projects.
But I do pay for trails with my taxes:
Great American Outdoors Act | US Forest Service
Enacted into law on August 4, 2020, the Great American Outdoors Act (GAOA) continues to provide new opportunities for the USDA Forest Service to deliver benefits to the American public through major investments in infrastructure, recreation facilities, public lands access, and land and water...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittman–Robertson_Federal_Aid_in_Wildlife_Restoration_Act
A portion of the Pitman-Robertson act funds are used by States to improve hunter access.
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I don't have kids. My taxes pay for public education. I want a refund!!! My point is the same, and that is that as a society we pay taxes that provide things for us that we don't all get to or choose to use. Your assertion is that you are entitled to a refund for things that you don't get to individually use. My response is that that is an unrealistic assertion. If you really want to continue to insist on it, then there's no point because I can't fix "that"........That is some funny stuff! Nobody pays highway use taxes (commonly called gas tax) on bicycles. Uninformed response, but funny, none-the-less.
Gas Taxes and What You Need to Know
Gas taxes are imposed by the federal and state governments on motor fuel purchases, with most of the money going toward road infrastructure projects.www.investopedia.com
But I do pay for trails with my taxes:
Great American Outdoors Act | US Forest Service
Enacted into law on August 4, 2020, the Great American Outdoors Act (GAOA) continues to provide new opportunities for the USDA Forest Service to deliver benefits to the American public through major investments in infrastructure, recreation facilities, public lands access, and land and water...www.fs.usda.gov
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittman–Robertson_Federal_Aid_in_Wildlife_Restoration_Act
A portion of the Pitman-Robertson act funds are used by States to improve hunter access.
Since this thread started, there are two definitive outcomes - two peeps got booted out, and it is now a lot more peaceful. L L!
L!thumperman
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When motorized signed were put up back in the day. Everyone here knows e-bikes is not what they were talking about. E-bikes have no more impact than a regular bike. And if you're argument is people can get back into the woods further than on a regular bike and distribute the wildlife you are rite. But so do people on horses and there allowed. When they said no motorized vehicles we all know what they were talking about, loud, fuel burning, fast motorized vehicles. Just my 2 cents
Yep, just as I noted in #57.
RockyMtnMT
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It is a good conversation. I get both sides and I don't think either side is wrong.
