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Jeff,
My personal findings on the 30 Nolser W/215 hybrid are as follows..
Built on Defiance Deviant action
Bartlein 10 twist 26" #3
MCM stock
jewel
you get the idea all high end parts done right....Oh but ya cant forget the TBAC Titianium supressor
when i first received the reamer and print I made my brass outta 28 nosler brass turned, trimmed yata yata. I shot this for 25 rounds or so basically looking for pressures rough zeroing and not taking it to seriously knowing that......
A. I wanted to do real life research on actual factory brass and
B. I didn't want the findings to be swayed by any thicker this, neck turned that bla blah blah then I found 30 nolser brass so that stuff went in the trash.
My 300 win mag set up for the 215 hybrid runs 3.630" COAL (((NOTE THIS IS .020" off lands))) this leaves the Bt/BS junction just a touch below the neck shoulder junction but not really eating up that much usable case capacity((((you can only put so much H1000 in this case before it says NOPE))))))),,,,and this will work in any standard repeater mag box, AI mag or HS precision mag.....which is what most folks want anyways, and this will allow for a lifetime of barrel burn in and chasing the lands without running outta mag box length.
My 30 nolser set up is a touch different and this is where the shorter fatter case will come on strong I think.... my COAL with 215 hybrid is 3.667" this is In lands with no where else to go even if you stand on it!!! Now This leaves the BT/BS junction roughly .040" above the Neck/Shoulder junction. All the while still being able to run through any AI mag HS precision or standard internal LA mag box
My 300 WM with 215 gr berger Hybrids in 25-26" 10 twist tubes run in the Average 2880-2900 FPS range Validated velocity using Norma brass and 76-77.2gr H1000 powder non coated anything just outta the box and in the case nothing special no HBN just raw components period. ((((( I know I know.....Im gonna Hear the """"why not run a 28-30" barrel or throat it out so the bullets barely in the case so you can cram another 5 gr of powder in there for a measly fps gain all the while stressing the cartridge to its absolute limit! yata frickin yata""""" get a dam ultra mag sized case so you can run a 230at or over 3100 fps in a 26" barrel!!!!
If im gonna pack a longer and heavier hunting rig its not going to be a 300 win mag with a 215 sorry, its gonna be something that either moves a 30 cal 230gr bullet @ 3100 plus or better yet a 338 or 375cal that moves a 300gr 338cal or 350-400 gr 375 cal at 3000 fps plus. PERIOD! everybody is different and that's just me.
Yeah i know the 300 win mag is awesome and versatile and has taken countless animals and targets at ranges from.......................................................................................................................................................................and I'm asleep,,,,,,,,,.......
My test subject 30 Nosler with fired brass, 83gr of Retumbo CCI 250 26" 10 twist (it could probably go a little more in my rifle but this is where accuracy got stupid good it was near top end so i stopped, and i see now nosler has it maxed at 84gr retumbo with 210gr) and 215 Hybrid bullet non coated just raw, ran 3038 FPS validated and did it with stupid good accuracy!!! as far as barrel life and so on I don't have but 150 rounds on this barrel so time will tell! why Retumbo???? it was what i grabbed and based off of other similar sized cases I've messed with i figured it would work out pretty good.
Im gonna run this barrel and keep track of barrel erosion and throat wear but im guessing it wont be any worse than a 300 win mag if any!
Is it the end all be all of the 30 cal variety .....NAAAAOOOOOOOO! it is proving that its a solid offering and in a shorter package by a good company!
Jeff,
My personal findings on the 30 Nolser W/215 hybrid are as follows..
Built on Defiance Deviant action
Bartlein 10 twist 26" #3
MCM stock
jewel
you get the idea all high end parts done right....Oh but ya cant forget the TBAC Titianium supressor
when i first received the reamer and print I made my brass outta 28 nosler brass turned, trimmed yata yata. I shot this for 25 rounds or so basically looking for pressures rough zeroing and not taking it to seriously knowing that......
A. I wanted to do real life research on actual factory brass and
B. I didn't want the findings to be swayed by any thicker this, neck turned that bla blah blah then I found 30 nolser brass so that stuff went in the trash.
My 300 win mag set up for the 215 hybrid runs 3.630" COAL (((NOTE THIS IS .020" off lands))) this leaves the Bt/BS junction just a touch below the neck shoulder junction but not really eating up that much usable case capacity((((you can only put so much H1000 in this case before it says NOPE))))))),,,,and this will work in any standard repeater mag box, AI mag or HS precision mag.....which is what most folks want anyways, and this will allow for a lifetime of barrel burn in and chasing the lands without running outta mag box length.
My 30 nolser set up is a touch different and this is where the shorter fatter case will come on strong I think.... my COAL with 215 hybrid is 3.667" this is In lands with no where else to go even if you stand on it!!! Now This leaves the BT/BS junction roughly .040" above the Neck/Shoulder junction. All the while still being able to run through any AI mag HS precision or standard internal LA mag box
My 300 WM with 215 gr berger Hybrids in 25-26" 10 twist tubes run in the Average 2880-2900 FPS range Validated velocity using Norma brass and 76-77.2gr H1000 powder non coated anything just outta the box and in the case nothing special no HBN just raw components period. ((((( I know I know.....Im gonna Hear the """"why not run a 28-30" barrel or throat it out so the bullets barely in the case so you can cram another 5 gr of powder in there for a measly fps gain all the while stressing the cartridge to its absolute limit! yata frickin yata""""" get a dam ultra mag sized case so you can run a 230at or over 3100 fps in a 26" barrel!!!!
If im gonna pack a longer and heavier hunting rig its not going to be a 300 win mag with a 215 sorry, its gonna be something that either moves a 30 cal 230gr bullet @ 3100 plus or better yet a 338 or 375cal that moves a 300gr 338cal or 350-400 gr 375 cal at 3000 fps plus. PERIOD! everybody is different and that's just me.
Yeah i know the 300 win mag is awesome and versatile and has taken countless animals and targets at ranges from.......................................................................................................................................................................and I'm asleep,,,,,,,,,.......
My test subject 30 Nosler with fired brass, 83gr of Retumbo CCI 250 26" 10 twist (it could probably go a little more in my rifle but this is where accuracy got stupid good it was near top end so i stopped, and i see now nosler has it maxed at 84gr retumbo with 210gr) and 215 Hybrid bullet non coated just raw, ran 3038 FPS validated and did it with stupid good accuracy!!! as far as barrel life and so on I don't have but 150 rounds on this barrel so time will tell! why Retumbo???? it was what i grabbed and based off of other similar sized cases I've messed with i figured it would work out pretty good.
Im gonna run this barrel and keep track of barrel erosion and throat wear but im guessing it wont be any worse than a 300 win mag if any!
Is it the end all be all of the 30 cal variety .....NAAAAOOOOOOOO! it is proving that its a solid offering and in a shorter package by a good company!
