How bad is the 7 backcountry?

[Joefrazell]

Just seems like an absolutely horrible idea for federal. What am I missing?

 

[comfisherman]

Just seems like an absolutely horrible idea for federal. What am I missing?

The other 3 threads beating this to death...

 

[Joefrazell]

I guess I missed them

 

[comfisherman]

Thread 'Federal does it again ' https://www.longrangehunting.com/threads/federal-does-it-again-😅.374966/

New Cartridge from Federal - 7mm Backcountry

Sounds interesting! https://www.federalpremium.com/backcountry.html

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New 7mm cartridge from Federal

https://www.federalpremium.com/backcountry.html?utm_source=Klaviyo&utm_medium=campaign&utm_campaign=01%2F07%2F25%20It%27s%20here%20%28clone%29%20black&_kx=NNHElpYHqdSfrRg00NTDinFyuTYC9mIE0hOwITE3UbM.VqWULb#backcountryBreakthrough

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[Axl]

Just seems like an absolutely horrible idea for federal. What am I missing?

Basic understanding of economics is what you are missing. Not trying to be rude, just blunt. How is it a horrible idea, if they make money on new items?
Go in the grocery store, take a notebook. Write down the name of every item that says "new". Next year take that notebook back to the store, and try to find those same items. Very few new items are successful long term. But every one of those new items, were sold to that store at a profit. So every year they have more new items, that's how companies work.
It's not like Federal can invent the 22 Long rifle cartridge every year.

 

[Joefrazell]

Basic understanding of economics is what you are missing. Not trying to be rude, just blunt. How is it a horrible idea, if they make money on new items?
Go in the grocery store, take a notebook. Write down the name of every item that says "new". Next year take that notebook back to the store, and try to find those same items. Very few new items are successful long term. But every one of those new items, were sold to that store at a profit. So every year they have more new items, that's how companies work.
It's not like Federal can invent the 22 Long rifle cartridge every year.

I feel like it was a horrible idea that's destined to fail. They would have been better off to just reinvent the 7prc. I get it. They'll be the only producers of the components. I don't think it will last long. I see it crashing hard. R&D for 3 years is expensive. Understanding basic economics means you should understand overhead. I'm sure they'll get into the black on this but it's definitely going to fall by the wayside. Hope I'm wrong for their sake.

 

[Mike D Texas]

Technology is stagnant on cartridges. I applaud them for thinking outside the box.

3000fps from a 20" barrel with a 175 grain bullet fired from basically a 280 Ackley cartridge ain't nothing to be mad at.

It already has 80 rifles worth of support behind it.

Where they may have screwed up is not having a supply of cases, reamers and reloading dies available day one. SAAMI listing would have been good too.

 

[Savagehunter1968]

Can't have saami listing the pressure is too high

 

[nwmnbowhunter]

Reminds of remington etronx rifle with electrical ignition system. Actually worked really well, and was outlawed in competition i believe, but ultimately too big of a change with electronics that can fail.

Curious how much ammo price will be. I don't see it being very easy to reload for. Also if you get into pressure signs with reloads, you are well over 80k...... doesn't seem safe to me at all.

 

[CMP70306]

Reminds of remington etronx rifle with electrical ignition system. Actually worked really well, and was outlawed in competition i believe, but ultimately too big of a change with electronics that can fail.

Curious how much ammo price will be. I don't see it being very easy to reload for. Also if you get into pressure signs with reloads, you are well over 80k...... doesn't seem safe to me at all.

Ammo price is basically $50 to $65, right in line with other premium cartridge options. As for reloading that is yet to be determined, sounds like there are no pressure signs at reasonable levels so you would have to follow the book more so than normal.

Then again most brass pressure signs happen well over 70k psi anyway so it isn't much different than the way people operate now.