Homogenous copper bullets can be inhumane

[xsn10s]

I think my bias is against the cultlike fanbase that continue to push low bc bullets on a longrange hunting site. No bias against the bullets themselves or the company who makes them. If all of my hunting was less than a few hundred yards they might be my huckleberry.

My go to bullet for 400 yards or less was Partitions. I have a 1000 of the original Solid Base 180gr for more of the same. I don't see a reason to change. If forced to go green and shoot lead free I'd maybe consider it. Or go bowhunting or fishing.

 

[DoneNOut]

I think my bias is against the cultlike fanbase that continue to push low bc bullets on a longrange hunting site. No bias against the bullets themselves or the company who makes them. If all of my hunting was less than a few hundred yards they might be my huckleberry.

Well, you have a bias against telling the truth, and supporting your claims with anything of substance. BTW It's, "Hucklebearer" Not, "Huckleberry". Doc Holiday character played by Val Kilmer says, "I'm your Huckle bearer, why Johny Ringo, looks like somebody just walked all over your grave". The handles on caskets are called huckles. Huckle bearers carried the casket to the grave.

 

[xsn10s]

People say they pick a bullet due to how it kills. That's what a bullet is supposed to do. I've not had any problems killing big game with ballistic Tip, Partitions, AccuBonds, Speer Magtips, and Hornady Interlocks. I've been pretty lucky but all have been one shot kills.

 

[GSPRunner]

Well, you have a bias against telling the truth, and supporting your claims with anything of substance. BTW It's, "Hucklebearer" Not, "Huckleberry". Doc Holiday character played by Val Kilmer says, "I'm your Huckle bearer, why Johny Ringo, looks like somebody just walked all over your grave". The handles on caskets are called huckles. Huckle bearers carried the casket to the grave.

Easy Jen - better fact check yourself. Google is your friend here. Thats what he should have said, but he didn't, making the line legendary…

The Truth About the Meaning of Doc Holliday's Line I'm Your Huckleberry

 

[DoneNOut]

Easy Jen - better fact check yourself. Google is your friend here. Thats what he should have said, but he didn't, making the line legendary…

The Truth About the Meaning of Doc Holliday's Line I'm Your Huckleberry

Well, look who's supporting his claims about a movie line, but not about his Hammer bullet failure. Hand in the cookie jar, dude.

 

[xsn10s]

Okay past this old man's bed time. You crazy kids play nice.

 

[FEENIX]

Everybody needs to chill out.

 

[Swamplord]

Easy Jen - better fact check yourself. Google is your friend here. Thats what he should have said, but he didn't, making the line legendary…

The Truth About the Meaning of Doc Holliday's Line I'm Your Huckleberry

oh geez, not the "huckleberry" argument again ... that article is fos plain as day, just some da writing far reaching crap

listen to Doc's accent and it's clear as a bell when he says "I'm your hucklebearuh " NOT "hucklebearee" FFS, lol !


derailed train running offa da trax again, lmao .... carry on


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[Raudy707]

Like California, every state in the not too distant future will all be lead free. So better buckle up buttercups, it is coming. Yes muzzleloader, shotgun, even 22 LR. We can't take any game animals with lead bullets. As of now, lead can only be used for target practice. With this new administration and all the environmental green motivation surrounding it all 50 states will have this jab, I mean mandate, I mean law soon enough. Enjoy your lead while you can.

 

[GSPRunner]

oh geez, not the "huckleberry" argument again ... that article is fos plain as day, just some da writing far reaching crap

listen to Doc's accent and it's clear as a bell when he says "I'm your hucklebearuh " NOT "hucklebearee" FFS, lol !


derailed train running offa da trax again, lmao .... carry on


..

According to this theory, what Holliday shouldhave said in the film is, "I'm your huckle bearer." The theory goes that Val Kilmer accidentally said huckleberry instead, and the line stuck. There are a couple of problems with that explanation. First, no official copy of the script has ever been seen with the words "huckle bearer" used. Second, Val Kilmer maintains that the line written in the script was huckleberry, and Kilmer even titled his autobiography I'm Your Huckleberry.

 

[Barrelnut]

What is a huckle bearer?
In the South of the mid to late 1800's a huckle bearer was the equivalent of a pallbearer. A handle on a casket was called a huckle. Holliday, the gun fighting dentist, was raised in a gentile Georgia home, where he would have been aware of such a phrase.

 

[JMW67]

I was just wondering if you two think yall can save the mariage

 

[WildRose]

https://www.ballisticstudies.com/Kn...G9wpQk3583ooPAZg51cbcATzthQOmC2AZXPb61nesmcPk

I'm having a hard time thinking of of polite way to do this.

I respect him and all the work TB has done.

He doesn't know what he's talking about with respect to Monos however.

We're not talking about solids that punch a caliber sized hole all the way through an animal.

No, most premium copper bullets are not going to shed a great deal of weight because they are not designed to but the best of them are made from soft enough alloys they do expand, some quite well.

He's also completely discounting the damage done by the shockwave running through the vitals which at high velocity impact speeds can literally turn everything in an animal's chest to runny, lumpy, jello.

He's also discounting the fairly frequent failures of even premium conventional bullets to expand properly, some of which pencil through, some of which virtually explode with little or no penetration producing horrible wounds animals are likely to die of days or even weeks later.

I want to see that 75-95% weight retention and consistent, reliable expansion. I've only gotten that with Bonded Bullets and Mono's.

There are some mono's i've been very unimpressed with because if they don't break a major bone like the Humerus they don't expand enough to suit me.

I put one made by a manufacturer I respect a whole lot through the entire length of a large boar that did not expand at all and without dogs we'd have never found, finished, and recovered him because he was able to run more than half a mile into very brushy, rough country.

I've seen virtually the same though from some premium cup and core bullets that shed their led too easily and did not retain enough weight to do much damage internally.

I've seen unbonded tipped bullets turn almost completely inside out and pencil out the other side doing little internal damage requiring one or more follow up shots.

I don't see any data supporting the idea that a good mono is going to be more prone to failures than many conventionally made bullets, even some considered to be "premium bullets".

Good man, fine company, but he seems to be a couple of decades behind in understanding the mono's on the market today.

 

[WildRose]

IMO this helps to emphasize the importance of understanding the bullet's capabilities and minimum expansion velocities. We'll see the shooter blame bullets for their performance. Many times I wonder why the shooter chose a particular bullet for a particular job.

It also seriously underscores the need to understand how the bullet you are shooting will act when it hits different parts of an animal's body and the need to apply that to your choice of POI.