Holy hazmat!!!

[Vann Kirkland]

What's the deal with these high hazmat fees plus shipping on top? Just capitalism at work during these times?? Just purchased a couple pounds of powder from a certain online retailer... $38 for hazmat then another $32 for shipping??? It's getting ridiculous.. guess I just needed to vent.
Midway and Natchez occasionally offer Hazmat FREE Shipping. It seems like they do it every 3 or 4 months. If you sign up for emails, they will notify you.

 

[chris ross]

What's the deal with these high hazmat fees plus shipping on top? Just capitalism at work during these times?? Just purchased a couple pounds of powder from a certain online retailer... $38 for hazmat then another $32 for shipping??? It's getting ridiculous.. guess I just needed to vent.

I just bought 7 # of powder yesterday and drove 2 1/2 hours because the store wouldn't ship it . Those charges seem excessive.

 

[antelopedundee]

I just bought 7 # of powder yesterday and drove 2 1/2 hours because the store wouldn't ship it . Those charges seem excessive.

Increasing the hazmat fee is less punitive than jacking up the price on the product.

 

[Mike Matteson]

The reason you don't see freight trucks blowing up is because of the extra steps taken to handle hazardous materials. There are extra steps and extra expenses involved in transporting hazmat packages so the transportation companies have to pass that on to their customers (the vendors). The vendors then decide how much of that to pass on to the consumer. Just because somebody offers free or reduced shipping costs doesn't mean that they get to ship the item for free. Larger vendors can just absorb some of the expenses of shipping instead of passing it on.

Everyone has grown so accustomed to free shipping that they're surprised by the actual cost when they have to pay it. I can actually list the same item for sale for $20 and free shipping or $15 plus shipping $5 shipping and I'll sell more of the $20 items every time.

That not right! I have over the years received powder by UPS and other shippers. All it's come in is a cardboard box, beaten up and sometime just barely hanging together, likewise with ammo. Sometimes they have to tape the box back together. So it's not being handle with TLC by a long shot nor handle differently. The people that aren't on the know are scare of powder. I haven't seen any UPS trucks with a stove in them to cook up a hot meal either. Powder needs open flame and in a compress area to do anything. Otherwise it just burns up and no bang.
It's not a matter of shipping costs, it's the hazmat charge that really doesn't belong there. The charge may have come from Sick Willy. To Store Powder in a fire prof box only needs to be 3/4" thick wood to enclose the powder. That gives it's a 1 hour fire rating. "Look it up the net. I always compare prices that includes the cost of shipping, including hazmat to see if it a deal. Or I bend over and close my eyes.
SSS

 

[Dr. Richard Gray]

What's the deal with these high hazmat fees plus shipping on top? Just capitalism at work during these times?? Just purchased a couple pounds of powder from a certain online retailer... $38 for hazmat then another $32 for shipping??? It's getting ridiculous.. guess I just needed to vent.

That is why I don't purchase powder online! I buy all of my powder and primers from my local Shooters Supply. They can reduce the cost significantly, of these ridiculous charges.

 

[Dr. Richard Gray]

Know what powders you can use in your reloads. You act like there is only 1 powder! There are probably 6-8 different powders you can use for your specific reloads, and as a hunter, probably can't justify the differences in performance, that is if you can see any. I've used IMR 4064 in every caliber I own, although I prefer IMR 4350 in my larger calibers. First check https://load-data.nosler.com/load-data/308-winchester/ to determine what powders you can use for specific reloads, they vary within a caliber for different loads, then check with your local supplier to see what they have.

 

[antelopedundee]

Wow, considering most places online have no 9mm right now that's doubly amazing. I would grab some for sure.

I don't have a 9mm so what would I do with it? How many boxes can I sell/resell without being a dealer?

 

[FlyGuy11]

try Powder Valley

If their website works

 

[antelopedundee]

Know what powders you can use in your reloads. You act like there is only 1 powder! There are probably 6-8 different powders you can use for your specific reloads, and as a hunter, probably can't justify the differences in performance, that is if you can see any. I've used IMR 4064 in every caliber I own, although I prefer IMR 4350 in my larger calibers. First check https://load-data.nosler.com/load-data/308-winchester/ to determine what powders you can use for specific reloads, they vary within a caliber for different loads, then check with your local supplier to see what they have.

For my 2 new barrels/rifles I'm going to limit my powders to IMR4955, IMR7977 or Reloder 23 which all have copper fouling reducers added.

 

[antelopedundee]

HazMat fees are set by UPS.
*If* you are a volume shipper, you can get a break on both the basic shipping & HazMat tag.
That is how the big boys can charge less for the shipping.
But if you are like the rest of us, you cannot eat $30~40 per HazMat order to price match shipping charges.

Certainly not if you intend to resell the stuff.

 

[FlyGuy11]

We cant get any ammo or powder via post or private delivery - every thing has to be picked up personally here and your details recorded along with your license and some places even require a photo ID so if you are 500 miles from a store then it costs for fuel to and from

We are trying to avoid that in the United States but it's an uphill battle.

 

[sea2summit]

I don't have a 9mm so what would I do with it? How many boxes can I sell/resell without being a dealer?

I don't think there is a limit, not sure how to ship it though.

 

[Huntz]

Brunos is nuts with their hazmat and shipping.About $37.00 each and super high prices on powder and primers.I bought the same things form Midway ,powder and primers cheaper and $13 dollars shipping and the same for Hazmat.

 

[Gone Ballistic]

Yes it was pretty nasty, we did get shafted but ours was in 1996 you might be thinking of New Zealand as they just had the same thing happen?

Thats what happens when you dont have a decent gun lobby like your NRA.

The problem I have with it was that there was no regulation(registration, safe storage requirements or licencing scrutinisation) at the time & there was no attempt to actually impliment such a registration & licencing scheme as we have now, they just prohibited them & took them away, same thing in NZ.

We were lucky though(well not really), we had a buy back scheme where the government bought our semi auto rifles/semi auto & pump shotguns.
I think in NZ they just had to hand them in with no compensation at all.

It really does make you cry to see all those historic firearms get put thrpugh the shredder

It was "96" and I was preparing for a trip down there. When I saw a news clip of watching so many beautiful guns being destroyed I vowed not to ever return there. To think that I almost moved there and tied up all of my assets makes me ill to think about it. I probably would have lost my entire arsenal of firearms.