Ok, sorry guys alot of comments since I had a chance to check for last night. Let me see, first I can not put the front mount on the back or the back on the front. The bottom of each mount is shaped differently to fit the rifle ( back base is alot flatter the the front ) possible I could turn them around. I pulled it apart lastnight and found the rear base had some trash under it on one side, cleaned it off also found a couple little burs on the bottom of the screw holes, took care of them and put the bases back on, rechecked with the alignment bars and now they are showing off, I need to relap the rings and see if it straightens out. Also found for my dads eye relief we had the scope back too far and the front ring was actually gripping the start of the bell on the front of the scope. Hopefully just moving the scope forward a touch will fix that. Then I'm hoping to remount the scope and bore sight it and hopefully it will be way left ! By the way I forgot to say in my original post the target I showed was not the first shots, we have tryed this thing a couple times and I'm sure the scope was centered from the factory but like a dummy I cranked all the way to one side trying to get it on target.