Help With Remington 700 Accuracy

[Mram10us]

3" groups at 100 are mostly scope mounting related. It's hard to shoot groups that bad. Do you have any buddies that know guns well and can take a look at it?

I'd save my money on the torque wrench. If you hand tighten the same every time you take it apart, you'll be fine. Rifles shouldn't need disassembling very often

 

[Tangent]

Loose action screws and/or loose rings/bases will easily mess-up a rifle.

Just think of it this way, you probably 'wasted' 15-25 rounds - how much money is that? How much time have you spent trying to figure it out? With money being tight, see if a buddy or family member will split the cost of the torque wrench. I bought mine years ago and constantly loan it to friends and family.

 

[Bigeclipse]

3" groups at 100 are mostly scope mounting related. It's hard to shoot groups that bad. Do you have any buddies that know guns well and can take a look at it?

I'd save my money on the torque wrench. If you hand tighten the same every time you take it apart, you'll be fine. Rifles shouldn't need disassembling very often

I am definitely not as experienced as you but completely disagree with this point. A 50$ wheeler torque wrench is a must for any long range hunter in my opinion. Many people have shown that overtightened scope screws or improperly torqued action screws can cause drastic issues with accuracy. the fact his rifle shot fine first and then after being taken apart shoots terrible says too me it is either the barrel (crown damage or not free floated), the action (action screw tightness or maybe needs bedding), or the scope (scope was damaged, scope rings/bases are loose, or scope rings are too tight and crushing the scope tube). Just my two cents.

To the OP, check everything I just mentioned. bedding being the last thing since it is not an easy process and will take the most time to do.

 

[Mram10us]

I've never used a torque wrench on action screws. Nothing wrong either way, but a bit of loctite and hand tighten and you're fine. Do whatever your comfortable with.

 

[Mram10us]

I am definitely not as experienced as you but completely disagree with this point. A 50$ wheeler torque wrench is a must for any long range hunter in my opinion. Many people have shown that overtightened scope screws or improperly torqued action screws can cause drastic issues with accuracy. the fact his rifle shot fine first and then after being taken apart shoots terrible says too me it is either the barrel (crown damage or not free floated), the action (action screw tightness or maybe needs bedding), or the scope (scope was damaged, scope rings/bases are loose, or scope rings are too tight and crushing the scope tube). Just my two cents.

To the OP, check everything I just mentioned. bedding being the last thing since it is not an easy process and will take the most time to do.

You might be way more experienced than me. It's ok to disagree. I have never used a torque wrench after figuring out which tools make it consistent. Example: holding the small side of the torx wrench sold with vortex rings allows for the right amount of torque according to Travis at vortex.
I use loctite on scope rings and devcon scope rings ails to actions so they don't come off unless I want them to. Again, different techniques. Whatever works for you

 

[Plinker147]

Torque set is nice and as you get more advanced you will want to get one so buying one now isn't a bad idea. I didn't have one until a couple of years ago and still had plenty of accurate rifles. but you will be amazed how much you over tighten without a torque.

Few potential ideas:

Lots of difference between boxes of factory ammo, change in lots can do this. Are you using exact same ammo you shot 1/2 MOA with?

You said your round count was low so try another brand while you continue your barrel break in and cleaning. Fed gold medal match is a good one to test accuracy, so Hornady match. or Hornady Superformance

Are your groups showing any kind of consistencies? meaning string high, low, left or just everywhere?

Could be be a bedding issue and the stock is moving slightly with recoil. A bedding job will fix this, watch some you tube videos on how to do this and you can easily do yourself for cheap.

Check the scope as well, make sure nothing moving.

 

[Mram10us]

Guess I need to get more advanced

 

[Tangent]

Guess I need to get more advanced

Just honestly curious: a $50 investment that will last 10 years (maybe your lifetime), it takes only seconds more to use over a standard screwdriver, and ensures that all screws are tight and right. What's the reasoning why not? Just never done it so why start now?

 

[X47guy]

3" groups at 100 are mostly scope mounting related. It's hard to shoot groups that bad. Do you have any buddies that know guns well and can take a look at it?

I'd save my money on the torque wrench. If you hand tighten the same every time you take it apart, you'll be fine. Rifles shouldn't need disassembling very often

LOLOL.

get a torque wrench. Check torque specs. Make sure he didn't crush the scope tube by "hand tightening".

 

[CGWVU]

I don't know if this helps or not but the action is a Belle Carson m40 stock with the aluminum bedding block. What on should I be torquing the action screws to?

 

[just country]

morning, with instructions to adjust the trigger, THATS all
the smithy should have done. not replace the scope rings,
r any other work!!! if u know a friend that knows how to
assemble rifle scope bases, scope mounts, rings. U have
to start from the beginning and work up to torqueing
all the of the screws in the assembly process. when putting
the action back in the stock, I torque the stock action screws.
then I take a rubber hammer and lightly tap the stock against
the action, then retorque. then after firing rifle 5 rounds
retorque the action screws. u can get torque head screws
for a rem. action from brownells and a torque wrench.
justme gbot tum.

 

[X47guy]

45-60 in lbs

 

[Mram10us]

Just honestly curious: a $50 investment that will last 10 years (maybe your lifetime), it takes only seconds more to use over a standard screwdriver, and ensures that all screws are tight and right. What's the reasoning why not? Just never done it so why start now?

Not against it, but he's in college and $50 is a lot right now.
Scope rings:hold the small end of the torx will get you there
Scope base:devcon and tighten snuggly with torx on screwdriver
Action screws:hand tight with small Allen wrench. Bottoms out solidly when using pillars.
If he wants one, great. It just isn't needed.

 

[Mram10us]

LOLOL.

get a torque wrench. Check torque specs. Make sure he didn't crush the scope tube by "hand tightening".

LOLOL....LOL
Do whatever you want. I don't use one and my rifles shoot fine if you follow the above guidelines. Even Travis at vortex says it's fine to use the small end of the torx for rings