What bullet were you using? And yeah we've all had that happen…….. once in a great while
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FireFlyFishing
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Yes, but it is entertaining. You both responded and are now watching the thread.
Hand Skills
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Not sure if you actually care or just stirring the pot.
Berger 95 gr VLD Hunter out of a 243 Win.
I've had them DRT with that same combo lots.
Thanks for pointing that out. I un-subscribed now.
Butterbean..how close was that deer and how far was the shot?
Reason I am asking is because I am using the 170 Gr HHT in a 7 PRC. I Havnt taken an animal with it closer than 382 yards. Mine is only going right around 3000 fps. I have found petals in everyone one of my kills and waaaay less blood shot.
So it's just common sense to think that these bullets are better suited for longer distances or slower speeds than what some are used to.
I get you all like to run them at hyper speed so just use the hammer hunter for that because you arnt shooting them past 500 yards anyways.
Or use any other bullet you want but I'm just saying the HHT doesn't look like it is built to be hotrodded and up close.
The reason they went tipped was to try to satisfy the BC guys that shoot longer distances. They even say it will open up easier. It did raise the BC a bit but not a ton.
Just my observation, no one has to take my opinions to the bank.
Reason I am asking is because I am using the 170 Gr HHT in a 7 PRC. I Havnt taken an animal with it closer than 382 yards. Mine is only going right around 3000 fps. I have found petals in everyone one of my kills and waaaay less blood shot.
So it's just common sense to think that these bullets are better suited for longer distances or slower speeds than what some are used to.
I get you all like to run them at hyper speed so just use the hammer hunter for that because you arnt shooting them past 500 yards anyways.
Or use any other bullet you want but I'm just saying the HHT doesn't look like it is built to be hotrodded and up close.
The reason they went tipped was to try to satisfy the BC guys that shoot longer distances. They even say it will open up easier. It did raise the BC a bit but not a ton.
Just my observation, no one has to take my opinions to the bank.
bigngreen
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What did the internal organs look like, entry and exit are a little part of the story.
No I care, I won't shoot a Berger but that's on me lots of folks kill ton of critters with them and I said it's happened to most of us, there's gonna be a bad bullet get out sometime or another
It was at 125y, usually run that pill in the 3800's but I slowed it down to 3480, 3800 is joust makes a bigger mess
Some, in the moment, overlook things or misinterpret things. A lot of people simply can't properly comprehend what they are seeing as they gut an animal. Look at this thread alone- many are good with just seeing a dead animal and that's good enough for them. If that's good enough for you, I'm not going to demand you change. I'm not at all trying to be demeaning or put anyone down by that. That's just the way some are and that's fine. Some like to get into it deeper.
There's always plenty that gets missed or misunderstood. A "good" result might have had more to do with good shot placement than a truly good bullet. If the shot placement was a bit off because something happened to influence it, like adrenaline, fatigue, cold fingers and loss of feeling pulling the trigger, a bad wind call, etc, etc that "good" result might end up as a "bad" result.
In my experience, a well constructed and designed bullet will make up for bad shot placement. Crap happens, like the examples I just gave, and we might not achieve the best shot placement we desired. A bullet that is forgiving to that and makes up for it SHOULD make it more about bullet construction than shot placement alone. Shot placement is crucial, don't get me wrong. Using a bullet within its particular limitations is also crucial and a factor that needs to be addressed.
And yes, we should be able to discuss whatever on this forum. Some just have differences of opinions on what's worthy versus not worthy, I guess.
There was a lengthy thread in the other forum on the HHT. With my limited attention span and knowledge and since I didn't spend too much time reading the whole thing - but my one take away was that the HHT had some performance issues with terminal velocities above 3400 fps. All of my current loads are below that velocity at the muzzle so I continue to want to try the HHT.
It was messing with our horses and FWP did nothing. Kind of an old school John Wayne kind of guy. In Happy Hunting Grounds so statute has expired.
So would you say the HHT is more destructive at close range hunting than the HH?
Yes, there's plenty of posts and evidence out there already. Reposting it gets cumbersome. It's out there, and out there for people to take from it what they will.
Yep
