Hammer bullet for short range bear hunting

[Allen Lone wolf]

If using .308 at close range I would use the slowest moving bullet and load you should get all the results you need. And if it wasn't illegal to use a handgun (which it is in Canada) that would be icing on the cake for a memorable hunt. God Bless and good luck! 10mm Dan Wesson 50yds 155gr Barnes Vortex. Deer traveled about 70yds blood trail all the way. Love it!

 

[fordy]

sorry mate (not Australian but figured I'd try the lingo, don't cancel me for cultural appropriation please! )

You're not replying to Steve who is @RockyMtnMT . You're replying to the former 300prc now @RockyMtnUT. I don't know what on earth he's trying to prove by changing his name and the way it's written to so closely imitate Steve's signature while making his picture a "failed" hammer bullet that could easily be created by just shooting one into gel at insufficient (and unrealistic) velocity, but it seems pretty overtly hostile of him and a touch childish to be honest. Steve's approach to this gent may not have been the most subtle (he never is ) but good grief the way this guy responded kind of proves Steve right about him. So again, Steve didn't tell you to see post 47, someone who has a problem with Steve did.

For all the talk I've heard about hammer supporters jacking threads, this thread that was explicitly seeking input about a hammer bullet sure got picked at by people with other plans for it.

Thanks for the heads up mate your welcome around my campfire anytime & we could fine tune your lingo lol na your fine

My eyes are like pi— holes in the snow @ present I thought Steve put a bit of a sneak peak on the prototype with the front section obscured from view but should have paid better attention as I'm guessing it's one of those brands some seem to have fun with trying to show results that were also obscured & for what ever petty reason they have that just shows me their intelligence level & I know I'm dumb but hmmm always another level I guess

cheers

 

[Calvin45]

Thanks for the heads up mate your welcome around my campfire anytime & we could fine tune your lingo lol na your fine

My eyes are like pi— holes in the snow @ present I thought Steve put a bit of a sneak peak on the prototype with the front section obscured from view but should have paid better attention as I'm guessing it's one of those brands some seem to have fun with trying to show results that were also obscured & for what ever petty reason they have that just shows me their intelligence level & I know I'm dumb but hmmm always another level I guess

cheers

Thanks haha, I don't think I'll be coming to australia for a camp fire anytime soon for a variety of reasons…but even if I could, I confess I am terrified beyond belief of big spiders so I hear australia may not be my cup of tea haha. I know a saltwater crocodile is way more dangerous…I'd love to see one someday! Basically a dinosaur. But the knowledge that truly enormous spiders are on THE SAME PLANET AS ME is a bit uncomfortable.

You are welcome at my campfire as well but don't come now haha. Even for Saskatchewan Canada it was freaking cold this morning for this time of year. But this kind of cold half the year means reptiles and insects of any great size can't survive so I'm stayin put!!!

I hear most aussies wouldn't tolerate this kind of cold, and my dad has been to Australia in the 1970s and couldn't take the heat haha. He left Uranium City Sk (just below the border to the Northwest Territories) in January at -40. One of the first towns he entered was a place called Eden and it was about +40 there (Celcius, about 104 F)

He said he thought to himself "this can't be Eden! Seems more like HELL!!!!"

 

[M1A1ABRAMS]

I have an uncle who had a steel bb removed from under the skin near his eye, years after it entered his head! Nothing to do with lead but crazy, they all assumed it had just bounced off after breaking the skin. Nope. Embedded in his scalp and then somehow worked it's way down to his face under the surface over time.

Idiots playing tag with BB guns as teenagers.

And here I thought we were the only ones dumb enough to play tag with bbs, & shotguns at certain distances, Bottle rocket tag was another fun cheap game. lol

 

[Calvin45]

And here I thought we were the only ones dumb enough to play tag with bbs, & shotguns at certain distances, Bottle rocket tag was another fun cheap game. lol

"We" as in your family or "we" as in Americans haha. Either way…

 

[M1A1ABRAMS]

"We" as in your family or "we" as in Americans haha. Either way…

We as in Alpha males. CAVEMEN lol

 

[Calvin45]

We as in Alpha males. CAVEMEN lol

Hahahhaha…I don't know about alpha males but I'll give y'all a run for your money as a stupid caveman.

I recall as a teenager I discovered you could load bbq skewers like for shiskababs down the barrel of a BB gun. So my friend and I almost got trampled by horses we spooked as I tried shooting him with skewers from and air gun while he tried driving over me with a bicycle INSIDE OF THE HORSE PEN. Got one stuck in his leg pretty good.

 

[2buffalo]

Maybe we can meld in this thread with the 180 Breger thread and create the perfect bullet thread. What you think?

 

[Shūtstr8]

Use whatever premium bullet that your rifle shoots well. Bonded, partitioned, monolithic, doesn't matter. A single lead ball can kill any animal if you can put it in the right place. If spending money on a hunt, I'm going with Partition / A-frame, or Accubond but only if I can't get a TTSX to shoot well.

 

[DoneNOut]

I have been turning my Berger tips into Hammer tips...

 

[M1A1ABRAMS]

Hahahhaha…I don't know about alpha males but I'll give y'all a run for your money as a stupid caveman.

I recall as a teenager I discovered you could load bbq skewers like for shiskababs down the barrel of a BB gun. So my friend and I almost got trampled by horses we spooked as I tried shooting him with skewers from and air gun while he tried driving over me with a bicycle INSIDE OF THE HORSE PEN. Got one stuck in his leg pretty good.

Friends & enemies had a whole different meaning in those days. Lol

 

[Watmill]

THIS IS THE ORIGINAL POSTER.....MAY I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE!!.

I have a new development. The 308 that I was going to take with me on this hunt has an issue with primary extraction amd bolt timing. I'm sending it in to be fixed. Just in case it doesn't get back in time (excuse #1) and because a 9 month backorder got filled (excuse #2) I picked up a Savage Impulse in 300 WSM for this trip. This rifle has a 1/10 twist, like the 308. Does this change anything in anyone's opinion of which HAMMER bullet I should or can use on this hunt?

If I didn't mention this before, I do like an exit wound on bears. So great performance (big wound channel) and and exit wound would be optimal.

THIS IS THE ORIGINAL POSTER.....MAY I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE!!.

I have a new development. The 308 that I was going to take with me on this hunt has an issue with primary extraction amd bolt timing. I'm sending it in to be fixed. Just in case it doesn't get back in time (excuse #1) and because a 9 month backorder got filled (excuse #2) I picked up a Savage Impulse in 300 WSM for this trip. This rifle has a 1/10 twist, like the 308. Does this change anything in anyone's opinion of which HAMMER bullet I should or can use on this hunt?

If I didn't mention this before, I do like an exit wound on bears. So great performance (big wound channel) and and exit wound would be optimal.

Thanks for taking the time to provide that feedback. You may not have seen that I was forced to switch to a 300 WSM, due to some unforeseen circumstances on my semi-custom 308 WIN. None the less, the advice on bullet weight is valuable. I am still mulling over all of the choices, and availability thereof. I'll let everyone know what I settle on.

For what it is worth, the Hammers (or possibly any mono) seem like they could be the best of both worlds. There is some degree of energy dump, petals that shed, and create secondary wound channels, and a slug remaining that penetrates deeply, and in my case hopefully creates an exit wound, for reasons stated above.

If you want to try the 165g Power Hammer and the 181g Shock Hammer I'll send you a box of each. They should fit into your 300WSM magazine. I have settled on the 174g Hammer Hunter for my 300 WSM.

I don't think I have PM privileges so call or text 714-272-6969

Watmill

 

[nralifer]

Badlands Precision bullets.

Well, I guess we have a large difference of opinion. I have seen well placed .375 CEB Lasers fail spectacularly and repeatedly with perfect placement at long range in a situation that a well placed .308 cal Badlands or Hammer would have done the job. At 60 yds anything works including shotgun slugs. For that matter, Mastodons were made extinct by the use of spears and rocks centuries before the invention of gun powder.

 

[Pdvdh]

Well, I guess we have a large difference of opinion. I have seen well placed .375 CEB Lasers fail spectacularly and repeatedly with perfect placement at long range in a situation that a well placed .308 cal Badlands or Hammer would have done the job. At 60 yds anything works including shotgun slugs. For that matter, Mastodons were made extinct by the use of spears and rocks centuries before the invention of gun powder.

Have you ever seen, or been informed by a customer, of the failure of one of your BD or SBD bullets to expand on game at an impact velocity exceeding 1,800 fps?