When it gets back ill tell the tale one way or another. Im sure that some *** has left the factory of every major firearms mfg in the world. Ive shot 2 of these before, and both shot moa as I recall, its just the combination of a 5-7moa gun, and a "guarantee" of 2.5 that is kinda disturbing. Im actually kinda glad I got it instead of somebody who just boresighted a scope, and grabbed a box of winchester silvertips on the way into the woods for deer. That said, it still won't do what I want to with it... so its going back tomorrow. Im in no way about to give up on factory sticks... just maybe non savage factory ones /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif Of course... im sure somewhere out there is a savage 110 that would consistantly miss a coffe can at 100yds. Lemons come in all colors.